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AndyG last won the day on February 13 2017

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  1. Then we have to look at the context and the perception of the recipient I'd say. I think that's clear.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    Of course - it's my fault- that's always the way isn't it? :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    And now I can't argue for the sake of modesty.... Can we never just behave toward one another? The last time I left this forum was because it always devolved to the personal. Must it always be so? Now this is your queue to tell me I lack a sense of humour or should toughen up. Always the man never the idea when it gets down to the bottom line.... I find myself once again disappointed and thinking I need to go elsewhere for debate and discussion. Oh well c'est la gauche. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. It wasn't about offence. The theory is if you maintain respectful boundaries force becomes less likely. Of course the trade off is officiousness. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    It took me three years to become a reasonable PC. Three more to become a reasonable DC- after that I built on those skills to become a DS. It took me around 6 more years of specialist training and accumulated experience to become the "go to" DS that could handle pretty much anything. To put that in context I have never worked anywhere "sleepy". I did my time and got my hands dirty. Having done that I returned to intervention as an Inspector. I'm not going to pretend that didn't give me new lessons to learn and new skills to acquire, but those were built on the foundations I'd already laid. I learn fast and process information well. I flatter myself that I am both emotionally and conventionally intelligent. My IQ exceeds 145 on a bad day. I continue to learn. Now I am open to the fact that someone may come along on direct entry who do far exceeds my capabilities that they can compress my experience into three years, but of these people only few will choose to be Police officers in the first place. Denigrate what we/I do. Buy into the hype- If policing is easy it can be done by anyone... a private company perhaps? I'm tired of making these arguments- When I foresaw the pension reforms I was mocked. When I spoke of the privatisation agenda I was mocked for the prison service I was mocked. When I said people would die due to the NHS reforms I was accused of being overdramatic. And now more of the same... how droll:) Supposing you are right and three years is enough and we actually don't need all that skill and experience making decisions that aren't life critical after all? What is the need to take that risk anyway? What is the great evil that we must be saved from? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    Oh . You are with one of those "pass the job to the department that deals with this stuff" forces and you are a PC... And you think you are the one with all the skills.... Mark... how long have you been a cop? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    What you say would make sense other than what I know references occupational knowledge relative to Policing. Yes they might bring better marketing skills or better budget handling skills than I have- but they won't help when trying to find someone. Given the depth of bizarre statements that have been placed on this board over the years- please don't think the depth and breadth of your insult has gone unnoticed - I appreciate it entirely :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    Very well- I believe due to the placement of direct entry Inspectors into operational command positions that people will die that otherwise wouldn't have. This is because our work focuses more and more on protecting and safeguarding, especially vulnerable people. I can see those that don't understand what it is that I do thinking I am dramatising things, but that is not the case. In the last 48 hours I have directed the enquiries that stopped a genuinely suicidal person from doing so against the clock. The skills I used to do that were acquired over a significant amount of time. With the best will in the world a direct entry won't know what I know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    No. That's just to counter the arguments from suitably qualified sgts. Heavily operational can only mean heavily operational. People will die. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    Feedback from my team, peers and boss coupled with a feeling that I generally get things right, and work things out while maintaining standards and getting the job done. In a nutshell ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. AndyG

    Direct entry as Inspector.

    Mark you are coming off quite angry over all this... Do you know what I think makes me a good Inspector? The combined experiences of 10 years as a constable and 11 as a DS . The fact is 9 times out of 10 I really do know better than most those junior in service to me what to do next. Sometimes more than one sergeant needs to work together on separate pieces of a job- I have the oversight and I establish the goal they are working together to reach. The public they see you at a job and hear your decisions... do they know some of them were made by your sgt? Beyond that do you know how many times your sgt speaks to his/her Insp? You are understandably entirely immersed in tactical policing - there is an entire world of strategic policing going on over your head of which you have no insight into. If you have a particularly bad inspector don't judge the rest of us- those bad officers reside at all ranks. Lastly I'd imagine I get paid significantly more than you - if it's so easy get those exams done and come enjoy the free money with the rest of us[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. AndyG

    Judges pensions - a right old can of worms

    So what we are afraid of is.... We have actually been discriminated against and it's unfair but if we prove that, then the remedy will be to make things equally bad for everybody, as Draconian and bad PR as that would be- so everyone, still in the service now... even those with 29 yrs plus... they all get converted to CARE. Not just the Police, all the civil services... and the rt Hon MPs???? Yes let's fear the outcome - if you are being bullied, under no circumstances ever fight back as the bully might hit you even harder.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. AndyG

    Donald Trump

    I mourn the day, whenever that happened, that the worst label you could pin on someone was an *ism. I also mourn the day that the ever fluctuating definitions of those *isms got to become the province of those who sacrifice logic and common sense and fairness on the altar of emotional knee jerks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. Hi All, I work at Police Oracle and I've been coaxed into 'running' the London Marathon. I hasten to add that rather than a run it will be more of a fast walk/stumble. I will be running for the Police charity - Child Victims of Crime (CVOC). Their website can be found here... www.cvoc.org.uk If anyone would like to sponsor me please feel free to visit my link on the justgiving website... http://www.justgiving.com/andrewgreenfield Thanks and if anyone else is running this year - good luck. Cheers, Andy Greenfield