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Reasonable Man

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  1. These are rest days and if you are being ordered to work the Police Regulations apply:
    'Compensation For Duty On A Rostered Rest Day
    Where Constables and Sergeants are required to do duty on a rostered rest day they are entitled to:
    where less than 15 days’ notice is received – time and one half;'
    I would have thought that two shifts paid at time and a half will cover your entry fee, if not your disappointment for not being able to crawl through mud.


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  2. Yes it is an offence. But good luck trying to get the police investigating it. The crime is one not recorded by the police but by the NFIB via Action Fraud.
    Having reported this the local police should record a 'local case management record' as there is a local suspect so it is within their remit to investigate. To do so would require seizing the computer and having it forensically examined to identify what was done and when - and then proving that it could not have been you.
    I think it will not be in their serious enough to deal with pile.
    That said you should still insist that they record it and get a reference number.


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  3. Niche is a recorded management system used by many forces to record a variety of records the police have to make.
    Reports by people will be recorded on Niche and investigation or other actions will be recorded to show what has been done and what the conclusion of those enquiries were.
    There is nothing you can do about false claims and accusations as it is a fact that they were made. If you wasn't questioned about those matters when you were arrested then it is very unlikely that you will be in the future.
    The police have to record and retain information in compliance with a set of 'rules' known as the management of police information (MoPI). Even when false accusations are proved the record of it remains as it is a fact that it was made. This protects the person falsely accused in a way as if that person makes further allegations the fact that there is a record of the false one immediately raises questions about the validity of the new one. If all traces of the false accusations were removed how would the police know what had happened before?


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  4. Funny how these two stories are seen as the same when one poster is complaining that he wasn't believed when he was the first person spoken to while the other poster is complaining about the opposite - that the police believed the person reporting.
    People just complain when they don't get their own personal view of justice.


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  5. Perhaps you’re right, but I think neutrality is only when you don’t have enough information to make a judgement about who is being victimised. Surely the fact that I called the police for help is a sign that I was the responsible one, who didn’t want the situation to escalate and didn’t want to/couldn’t use force against the person who was threatening. It was quite clear to anyone, who was physically stronger. I also had a witness but the police lady immediately disregarded him the moment she discovered that he wasn’t related. 

    Neutrality must always apply. What if the other party in your situation had called the police before you? Would that mean that they were the responsible one and you were in the wrong.
    I expect the officer has experience of attending many situations where she has heard two (or more) sides of a story and found the truth to be somewhere in between.


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  6. Sounds like he attended a situation and gathered all the information in a neutral way to form an unbiased assessment of the situation.
    It would be remiss of him to have blindly accepted the first version of events relayed to him.
    His job was to maintain order and deal with any crimes revealed, sounds like that's what he did.


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  7. I clearly works well in your world.
    I don't have the energy or the space to point out and discuss the flaws - yes flaws, not discussion points - in what you propose.
    Good luck getting it implemented.


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  8. A couple of faults in your system.
    Would you want the type of person you describe looking after your gran or mum in the care home?
    What happens to the hard working people who already get up early everyday to tend the graveyards? Do the become unemployed and queue up every morning so they can do the same job for £15 a day?


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  9. It mainly depends on pension law. I believe that unless you leave with an ill health pension or the full 30 on the 1987 scheme you have to be 55 years old to receive a pension. If you leave before you are 55 then the pension is deferred until your State pension age.
    But as above - check with the Fed and, I recommend, an independent financial advisor.


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  10. Unfortunately not. Not within the law. Sounds like she's a tenant so her landlord is liable and you must continue to report all of her anti social behaviour to them.
    Also report all criminality to the police. All noise problems to the council.
    It gets wearing but bad people don't get chucked out of their houses because of one or two (or) 20 incidents. From the councils view they will always have this problem, they can just move it around but these people are a problem wherever they go.
    Get your neighbours on board and those who shout loudest and longest get action.


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  11. I said should have been scrapped, it was not but should have been brought in with the new pension scheme.
     
    What is the point in officers being transferred to the 2015 scheme and protected officers are working 30yrs, stopping their payments and carrying on working and receiving maximum benefit when everyone else is losing money……wrong……. totally wrong in my view……..I spoke out regarding this on the old site and was shouted down and still speak out about this today, the the middle third officers are suffering the most. 
    Lets correct the wrong and stop this happening……………...all officers pay pension to retirement or death………..simple.

    I guess they didn't listen to you. Perhaps they thought that it was better that not everyone lost out.


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  12. It could be Section 4 or 5 of the Public Order Act. Don't expect a huge amount of interest from the local police though. In the scheme of things this is not major crime.
    If it is a private car park then a complaint to the drivers boss, supported by some video evidence may stop his juvenile behaviour.


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  13. She's right you know,
    'A Downing Street source said that a typical police officer joining the force on a £23,259 salary in 2010 would have taken home £17,972 after deductions for tax and national insurance. After seven years' service, the same officer would have a salary of at least £35,478. This would give a take-home pay of £27,405 after tax and NI contributions - an increase of £9,433, equivalent to 32% more than required to keep up with inflation.'
    So the 4% of officers who joined in 2010 would have had such a rise, if they all remained employed as officers.
    By the similar calculations an MP's salary has increased by 127% over the same period if you compare the salary of an MP in April 2010 to their salary now if they had become PM.


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  14. Speed detection is based on actual speed, not what an individual speedo indicates.
    Road cameras are set to measure the actual speed but an element of 'grace' is used, so no one is going to get a ticket for passing a camera at just over the limit.


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