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Reasonable Man

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    DBS certificate

    Why ask the question on a police forum? You should ask the DBS as they deal with DBS matters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    I guess they didn't listen to you. Perhaps they thought that it was better that not everyone lost out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Can you cause affray with a vehicle?

    It could be Section 4 or 5 of the Public Order Act. Don't expect a huge amount of interest from the local police though. In the scheme of things this is not major crime. If it is a private car park then a complaint to the drivers boss, supported by some video evidence may stop his juvenile behaviour. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    When is a pay rise not a pay rise?

    She's right you know, 'A Downing Street source said that a typical police officer joining the force on a £23,259 salary in 2010 would have taken home £17,972 after deductions for tax and national insurance. After seven years' service, the same officer would have a salary of at least £35,478. This would give a take-home pay of £27,405 after tax and NI contributions - an increase of £9,433, equivalent to 32% more than required to keep up with inflation.' So the 4% of officers who joined in 2010 would have had such a rise, if they all remained employed as officers. By the similar calculations an MP's salary has increased by 127% over the same period if you compare the salary of an MP in April 2010 to their salary now if they had become PM. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Speed detection is based on actual speed, not what an individual speedo indicates. Road cameras are set to measure the actual speed but an element of 'grace' is used, so no one is going to get a ticket for passing a camera at just over the limit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Doubled Moped Crime - how to fight it? / two ideas

    Changes to the law can only be made by parliament. You need to lobby your MP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Sounds ok. What is it that makes you think there is something illegal about it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    What to do in this scenario ?

    Hard as it can be ignore B and when s/he has a go record them so the evidence is clear no matter how many fake witnesses they have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Mopeds on motorways

    No No Yes And as for the other advice the Highway Code is not the law. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. Never miss a chance to have a dig but seriously? Commissioner Dick took charge on 17 April 2017 and the mergers were implemented two weeks later. The article says that the DAC in charge was talking about the scheme back in November and something on the scale would have been months, if not years in planning. Do you think Ms Dick should have just said, 'OK, the staff don't like change so I will just put it all back as it was.'?
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    International Police Association

    I worked with a couple of officers who were members. They used to use it for cheap holidays by doing house swaps.
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    Best CID shift pattern.

    ... what is good for the victims. Or do we say, 'sorry, you should have been robbed/burgled/assaulted during the week. Our detectives prefer to work then.'
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    Passing on the left? Offence?

    By your evangelistic approach I've never met a Traffic Officer who was not a hypocrite and we would have struggled to get the cars on the road as most officers would have lost their ticket. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Passing on the left? Offence?

    I did what I needed to pass and then drive like the rest of the cops after their course. 'Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.' Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Passing on the left? Offence?

    The Highway Code is not the law, just guidance. I undertake like this nearly every day on my way to work. There's a 3-5 mile section of motorway that is very busy approaching two busy junctions half a mile apart. The middle lane usually goes along at about 50 mph with lanes 1 and 3 doing about 40. When you pass the first junction lane 1 speeds up and goes faster than lanes 2 or three. I often undertake in close proximity to a marked police car as there is a traffic centre just off the motorway. Those officers could stop hundreds of us drivers if they thought it was a serious crime, but then they'd have to stick themselves on as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Passing on the left? Offence?

    What you describe would not be dangerous driving - A person drives dangerously when: ~ the way they drive falls far below the minimum acceptable standard expected of a competent and careful driver; and ~ it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous. Thousands of people do what you describe every day without being prosecuted. You may become unstuck if one of the slow movers on your right decides to move into lane 1 as you are passing and there is a collision. You will argue that they should have looked first and they will say you shouldn't have been undertaking. You are likely to get done.
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    Passing on the left? Offence?

    There is no clear answer. It depends on the exact circumstances at the time and the opinion/attitude of the police officer who sees you doing this. The Highway Code allows for traffic moving faster than that in a lane to the right to pass the slower traffic but the HC is not the law and some eager beaver could say you are driving carelessly or recklessly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    Very simple sums - Constable with 30 years pensionable service will be on £37,254. So a full pension will be £24,836. If you stopped paying contributions at 30 years then this will always be your starting pension when you retire. If you stay another year and keep paying contributions you will pay out £4,098 (plus a bit more for when you get the pay rise). As it is tax free then if you stop paying contributions you will be better off by £3,278 for the year (plus the bit). In 1 year your salary will be 1% more - £37,627 so your full pension will be £25,085 = £249 more for £3,278 contributions. You will break even at just over 13 years. If, like me, you intend on drawing your pension for at least as long as you paid in then you will draw back £7,470 for a £3,278 investment. Of course if you die after a year of pension you'd be worse off, but you wouldn't care. As said these are very simple sums and if you take a lump sum so have a reduced pension there are many variables to include. It also depends on how long more you serve and what the pay rises are over that time. Hence you need to ask a professional financial/pension adviser. Or Cheese? Where's Cheese? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    Eh? The what now? There are no pension, or financial experts in the Federation. Their stock answer is that they don't give financial advice. And the pay dept will tell you to contact the pension provider, who will give you facts and figures but no advice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    No. She would be fully protected on the final salary scheme. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    As it's a final salary pension then your pension is based on salary at the time you retire or stop paying into it. Your benefit or not of continuing to pay contributions depends on how long and how much your salary increases between 30 years service and retirement. It may be that with 1% pay rise cap it will take a long retirement to recoup the contributions but if your salary increased by more e.g. you were promoted then it would be worth it. Best get proper financial advice before just stopping contributions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  22. What forces are already giving 3 extra days off? Here is a Chief publicly stating that he is trying to improve the lot of the staff to reduce people leaving, including exploring pensions and financial aspects. If he was in the Government's pocket and not going to 'fight for us' then why has he put himself out there publicly saying he is? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Volvo cars

    Tesla is the leader with rapid acceleration 0-60 in But expensive at £50k. An area that is rapidly developing and probably in 10 years we will be struggling to find a new fossil fuelled car. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Urinating In A Public Place

    Discretion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Transfer to alternative station

    Not sure if it is national but in the force where I currently work you can be posted anywhere within 30 miles of where you live. As your shift pattern is not changing then nothing to consider there. Your Federation Rep is the one to ask as s/he will know Police Regs and any local agreements. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk