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Reasonable Man

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    Shift Change following court

    These are rest days and if you are being ordered to work the Police Regulations apply: 'Compensation For Duty On A Rostered Rest Day Where Constables and Sergeants are required to do duty on a rostered rest day they are entitled to: where less than 15 days’ notice is received – time and one half;' I would have thought that two shifts paid at time and a half will cover your entry fee, if not your disappointment for not being able to crawl through mud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Misuse of Computer Act query

    Yes it is an offence. But good luck trying to get the police investigating it. The crime is one not recorded by the police but by the NFIB via Action Fraud. Having reported this the local police should record a 'local case management record' as there is a local suspect so it is within their remit to investigate. To do so would require seizing the computer and having it forensically examined to identify what was done and when - and then proving that it could not have been you. I think it will not be in their serious enough to deal with pile. That said you should still insist that they record it and get a reference number. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Police files / on NICHE / False allegations

    Niche is a recorded management system used by many forces to record a variety of records the police have to make. Reports by people will be recorded on Niche and investigation or other actions will be recorded to show what has been done and what the conclusion of those enquiries were. There is nothing you can do about false claims and accusations as it is a fact that they were made. If you wasn't questioned about those matters when you were arrested then it is very unlikely that you will be in the future. The police have to record and retain information in compliance with a set of 'rules' known as the management of police information (MoPI). Even when false accusations are proved the record of it remains as it is a fact that it was made. This protects the person falsely accused in a way as if that person makes further allegations the fact that there is a record of the false one immediately raises questions about the validity of the new one. If all traces of the false accusations were removed how would the police know what had happened before? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Funny how these two stories are seen as the same when one poster is complaining that he wasn't believed when he was the first person spoken to while the other poster is complaining about the opposite - that the police believed the person reporting. People just complain when they don't get their own personal view of justice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Neutrality must always apply. What if the other party in your situation had called the police before you? Would that mean that they were the responsible one and you were in the wrong. I expect the officer has experience of attending many situations where she has heard two (or more) sides of a story and found the truth to be somewhere in between. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Sounds like he attended a situation and gathered all the information in a neutral way to form an unbiased assessment of the situation. It would be remiss of him to have blindly accepted the first version of events relayed to him. His job was to maintain order and deal with any crimes revealed, sounds like that's what he did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Crime Figures

    I clearly works well in your world. I don't have the energy or the space to point out and discuss the flaws - yes flaws, not discussion points - in what you propose. Good luck getting it implemented. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Police accountability.

    You need proper legal advice so speak to a solicitor, or maybe start with Citizens Advice. You won't get the advice you need from anonymous posters on a forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Crime Figures

    A couple of faults in your system. Would you want the type of person you describe looking after your gran or mum in the care home? What happens to the hard working people who already get up early everyday to tend the graveyards? Do the become unemployed and queue up every morning so they can do the same job for £15 a day? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Pension Politics

    It mainly depends on pension law. I believe that unless you leave with an ill health pension or the full 30 on the 1987 scheme you have to be 55 years old to receive a pension. If you leave before you are 55 then the pension is deferred until your State pension age. But as above - check with the Fed and, I recommend, an independent financial advisor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Zara Farebrother

    Done - but you should proof read your questions and correct them as appropriate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Bad Neighbours

    Unfortunately not. Not within the law. Sounds like she's a tenant so her landlord is liable and you must continue to report all of her anti social behaviour to them. Also report all criminality to the police. All noise problems to the council. It gets wearing but bad people don't get chucked out of their houses because of one or two (or) 20 incidents. From the councils view they will always have this problem, they can just move it around but these people are a problem wherever they go. Get your neighbours on board and those who shout loudest and longest get action. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    dog collides with car

    Yes. It's a civil claim against the dog owner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    4hrs OT working into a Rest Day/Banking Holiday

    What does your Federation say about it? They are the first port of call for such advice, not some random people on a forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. You'd have to be there to make a valid comment. All we have is one person's viewpoint, and to be honest I really can't picture the scenario in any detail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Career advice

    The MPS only recruits people who have lived in London for three years. You had better check if the same apples to transferees. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Wow!! First world problems. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Where to turn/Ill health retirement.

    I believe they can wait two years, after all it has to be shown that you are permanently totally disabled - unable to ever work for the rest of your life. But you should be asking your Fed rep for help and advice rather than random people on a forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    DBS certificate

    Why ask the question on a police forum? You should ask the DBS as they deal with DBS matters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Paying into Police pension

    I guess they didn't listen to you. Perhaps they thought that it was better that not everyone lost out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Can you cause affray with a vehicle?

    It could be Section 4 or 5 of the Public Order Act. Don't expect a huge amount of interest from the local police though. In the scheme of things this is not major crime. If it is a private car park then a complaint to the drivers boss, supported by some video evidence may stop his juvenile behaviour. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    When is a pay rise not a pay rise?

    She's right you know, 'A Downing Street source said that a typical police officer joining the force on a £23,259 salary in 2010 would have taken home £17,972 after deductions for tax and national insurance. After seven years' service, the same officer would have a salary of at least £35,478. This would give a take-home pay of £27,405 after tax and NI contributions - an increase of £9,433, equivalent to 32% more than required to keep up with inflation.' So the 4% of officers who joined in 2010 would have had such a rise, if they all remained employed as officers. By the similar calculations an MP's salary has increased by 127% over the same period if you compare the salary of an MP in April 2010 to their salary now if they had become PM. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Speed detection is based on actual speed, not what an individual speedo indicates. Road cameras are set to measure the actual speed but an element of 'grace' is used, so no one is going to get a ticket for passing a camera at just over the limit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Doubled Moped Crime - how to fight it? / two ideas

    Changes to the law can only be made by parliament. You need to lobby your MP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Sounds ok. What is it that makes you think there is something illegal about it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk