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Reasonable Man

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About Reasonable Man

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  1. Reasonable Man

    Public order offences in custody??

    Glad I could be of help. I guess as when I started going around the block it was pre Public Order Act 1986, pre PACE and pre CPS. Town Police Clauses and Vagrancy Acts was the bread and butter. Every day’s a school day, as they say. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. It’s your choice whether you insure your vehicle or not. While you would break the law by not being insured it is still your choice to pay and to comply with the law or not. Some people do not insure their vehicles based on the likelihood of a) getting caught; and having a blameworthy incident. You may believe that you will never cause harm to anyone but what if you had a moments lapse of concentration resulting in another requiring several millions of pounds worth of medical treatment over their lifetime. Could you pay for that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Public order offences in custody??

    Why on Earth would you think that a piece of common legislation would ‘confuse the hell’ out of a specialist criminal law solicitor? They may well go for a more suitable charge, but that is because modern legislation tend to fit the circumstances better than outdated legislation. If someone was playing up in a police station to me and they caused me to apprehend immediate unlawful violence I would be looking for a charge of Assaulting a Constable in the Execution of his Duty. Of no fear of violence the Sec 5 POA is suitable, applying Oram to the circumstances of course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. And all your house insurance back if you’ve never had a theft or flood or fire. And your pet insurance if they never needed treatment. And your critical illness insurance if you never get such an illness. And your life insurance if you never die. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. Reasonable Man

    Drugs scenario

    The Cannabis Escalation process says Cannabis Warning - Penalty Notices - arrest. Of course you need evidence for those disposals. With no admission you had reasonable suspicion so arrest was correct, he may have admitted it. There may have been forensics to link him e.g. fingerprints on the wraps/container. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Force Psychiatrist - terrified

    Hi ET66, It’s scary stuff but the people who get what they can and should by seeing a psychiatrist are those who work with them. S/he is a professional who knows you won’t get to the core of the problem in one or two or several sessions. Something that has has been 6 years in the making is not going to be resolved in 6 hours. I’ve had personal experience - nothing like your experience, and found my natural way of trusting what is happening and going with it helped a lot. I accept that not everyone can do this. I’ve had staff who I have managed who have needed such help. The two who had no benefit were the two who were convinced from the beginning that they would get nothing from it. One refused to acknowledge that she needed any help and went as a box ticking exercise. The other just went for the minimum number of sessions when they should have carried on. Good luck and remember you’re health is the most important thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. Reasonable Man

    Thoughts on leaving the police please!

    I never wanted to leave but had colleagues who did. It's an individual thing, some never looked back, some regretted it, some reapplied - one couldn't get in second time around. I would say be very sure that you want to leave, the grass isn't always greener. If you are truly unhappy as an officer then leaving is the best thing. If you hang on you're health will suffer, your relationships will probably suffer and you'll spend a long time being miserable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Shift Change following court

    These are rest days and if you are being ordered to work the Police Regulations apply: 'Compensation For Duty On A Rostered Rest Day Where Constables and Sergeants are required to do duty on a rostered rest day they are entitled to: where less than 15 days’ notice is received – time and one half;' I would have thought that two shifts paid at time and a half will cover your entry fee, if not your disappointment for not being able to crawl through mud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. Reasonable Man

    Misuse of Computer Act query

    Yes it is an offence. But good luck trying to get the police investigating it. The crime is one not recorded by the police but by the NFIB via Action Fraud. Having reported this the local police should record a 'local case management record' as there is a local suspect so it is within their remit to investigate. To do so would require seizing the computer and having it forensically examined to identify what was done and when - and then proving that it could not have been you. I think it will not be in their serious enough to deal with pile. That said you should still insist that they record it and get a reference number. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Police files / on NICHE / False allegations

    Niche is a recorded management system used by many forces to record a variety of records the police have to make. Reports by people will be recorded on Niche and investigation or other actions will be recorded to show what has been done and what the conclusion of those enquiries were. There is nothing you can do about false claims and accusations as it is a fact that they were made. If you wasn't questioned about those matters when you were arrested then it is very unlikely that you will be in the future. The police have to record and retain information in compliance with a set of 'rules' known as the management of police information (MoPI). Even when false accusations are proved the record of it remains as it is a fact that it was made. This protects the person falsely accused in a way as if that person makes further allegations the fact that there is a record of the false one immediately raises questions about the validity of the new one. If all traces of the false accusations were removed how would the police know what had happened before? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. Reasonable Man

    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Funny how these two stories are seen as the same when one poster is complaining that he wasn't believed when he was the first person spoken to while the other poster is complaining about the opposite - that the police believed the person reporting. People just complain when they don't get their own personal view of justice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Reasonable Man

    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Neutrality must always apply. What if the other party in your situation had called the police before you? Would that mean that they were the responsible one and you were in the wrong. I expect the officer has experience of attending many situations where she has heard two (or more) sides of a story and found the truth to be somewhere in between. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Sounds like he attended a situation and gathered all the information in a neutral way to form an unbiased assessment of the situation. It would be remiss of him to have blindly accepted the first version of events relayed to him. His job was to maintain order and deal with any crimes revealed, sounds like that's what he did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. Reasonable Man

    Crime Figures

    I clearly works well in your world. I don't have the energy or the space to point out and discuss the flaws - yes flaws, not discussion points - in what you propose. Good luck getting it implemented. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. Reasonable Man

    Police accountability.

    You need proper legal advice so speak to a solicitor, or maybe start with Citizens Advice. You won't get the advice you need from anonymous posters on a forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk