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Billy Blue Tac

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  1. I've not looked at the OP's linked article so don't know what offences are alleged, but as @skydiver rightly points out, going to trial is often the final option these days. For the OP's general interest, E&W have sentencing guidelines that use "sliding scale" based on the levels of harm and culpability Here for the Crown Court: https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/crown-court/ and here for the Mags: https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/
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    How are Raids planned

    Try here: https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/operations/briefing-and-debriefing/ As for sign off (or more accurately "authorisation") a good rule of thumb is that most powers to enter and search premises - such as a warrant - that need pre-authorisation require it to be given by an Inspector. But some do not need any prior-authorisation. It also depends on what activity is planned, what impact it may have on the wider community or other investigations etc if higher ranks need to be consulted. The only real time restrictions are that warrants need to be executed within a certain amount of time - normally 1 or 3 months - before they expire, and trying to establish the best time to maximise evidence gathering opportunities.
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    PNB sized book of acronyms

    Welcome to the Job. Apart from forking out for things like Police Pass, Blackstone's or Jane's books - which can be pricey and are often out of date by the time they hit the shops - there's nothing that immediately springs to mind apart from the PNLD PtP booklet: https://www.pnld.co.uk/marketing-events-launches/new-definitions-and-points-to-prove-booklet/ Most officers I know tend to make their own based on what they get from training and experience. Everytime I've been trained in new legislation, dealt with a novel offence or used an uncommon power I've used https://www.pnld.co.uk and http://www.legislation.gov.uk to do some research in my own time to get my head around it. If necessary, I print off a small idiot's guide to keep with my PNB until it becomes second nature then it gets binned. Have a trawl through this and the linked forums as I know there are some really handy tips to be found. (Maybe there's a gap in the market and some money to be earned - I call dibs)
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    Exam to enter the police

    Have a look here... http://recruit.college.police.uk/Pages/home.aspx And here... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_academy Also, "police academy" and "police department" are not normal parlance in the UK and more suited to American cop shows. If you want realism I suggest you use the terminolgy on the College's (or any E&W police service) web site
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    When police answers phone calls

    XXXX Police station. DC Smith's phone; he's out at the moment would you mind calling back tomorrow please?
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    Maternity and medical retirement

    What a sad story. I can't give any specific answers to your questions, but have you asked your force's Occy Health or HR for advice and guidance? There's also support available from Mind, Police Mutual, Call4BackUp etc if you want to go outside of the job. Good luck and get well soon.
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    Personal Safety

    Hopefully everyone is aware of RUN HIDE TELL Obviously the TELL phase should include dialing 999, but what if you're in hiding and can't speak for fear of discovery? Then you can use the "55 Silent Solution." Once you are connected to the operator just dial 55 on your mobile phone and that will tell them for sure that this is an emergency and that you cannot speak. Another - and potentially safer - option is to send a text to the emergency operator, but you need to register your mobile number first: send "register" to 999 and follow the instructions on the return text. These facilities are not just for CT incidents but can be used in any emergency when it's not possible to speak (eg Mountain Rescue Teams often prefer a text as voice calls can be difficult in bad weather) so I encourage everyone to register and spread the word. Be safe out there RUN HIDE TELL: http://www.npcc.police.uk/NPCCBusinessAreas/WeaponAttacksStaySafe.aspx 55 SILENT SOLUTION: https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/police-should-review-and-improve-the-informative-given-about-silent-solutions EMERGENCY TEXT: http://www.emergencysms.org.uk  While you're registering with 999 you might want to consider supporting this as well... https://www.childrescuealert.org.uk
  8. Protesting your disapproval of the law is not the same as protesting your innocence with a valid defence to an alleged crime. Anyone scared of the repercussions could be because they know, in their heart of hearts, they actually did go down the bus lane etc. The law is the law, and as for the government making it difficult for people to have (maybe you mean express?) a view, you can always petition your MP. Try here for starters: https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/ To be honest, I think you won't get much support for your belief structure on this forum. Have you tried the freeMAN of the LAND movement? They seem to be more aligned to your views: http://forum.fmotl.com
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    Public order offences in custody??

    I've been around the block a bit and to be honest I've never come across s29 - s28 yes on more than one occasion - but not s29 with it's cross reference to the special Act under s2. It seems that you have me at a disadvantage in that your experiences with CPS have been more productive than some of mine; so I bow and doff my cap to you, sir. Anyhoo, hopefully the OP now has clarity about the legality of using the Public Order Act in a custody suite.
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    Section 163

    I'm sure a passing traffic officer will correct me if I'm wrong... s.164 RTA 1988 gives the driver 7 days to produce his licence at a police station so you cannot arrest for failing to provide until then. On the other hand, when certain driving offences are suspected then s.168 requires the driver to give his name or address when asked for them. Failure to do is an offence and they may be arrested under PACE.
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    Public order offences in custody??

    I think you were referring to s.29 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847. Although it's a useful piece of law - especially s.28 - it's a bit convoluted as the station has to be within a Special Act (defined at s.2) and my best guess is that it would confuse the hell out of CPS who would rather go for something under the Public Order Act 1986. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89 s.29 says: every person guilty of any violent or indecent behaviour in any police office or any police station house, within the limits of the special Act, shall be liable to a penalty not exceeding forty shillings for every such offence, or, in the discretion of the justice before whom he is convicted, to imprisonment for a period not exceeding seven days.
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    Public order offences in custody??

    "Public" in this context doesn't mean in public, but rather conduct by members of the public. All offences from s.1 to s.5 in the 1986 Act can be committed in private (but there are some exceptions when the conduct is in a dwelling) Have a look at s.5(2) here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/contents I need to check but isn't it "violent or indecent" conduct in a station rather than the wider - and potentially more useful - "disorderly" ?
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    dog collides with car

    Ditto all above - you need to go down the insurance or small claims route against the dog owner. Even if you don't wish to pursue a claim, for whatever reason, check you T&C's as you'll probably have to inform your insurance provider when any damage occurs to an insured vehicle.
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    Drugs scenario

    The ERO was correct. What evidence is there to prove the driver was in possession? The lack of a positive ID, the lack of forensics or witnesses, and a plausable account of others recently using the car all point towards NFA. As you say: seize it and report it as per Force policy.
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    No licence?

    There is no provision in law for "must" arrest - it is "may" when the arresting officer believes it necessary to do so. I assume whoever told you this based in it on experience (their's or others they heard it from in the canteen) that cars were not seized in the days of yore and they arrested to prevent the driver from comitting further driving offences. See PACE code G.