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  1. Ck01

    Mobile phone technicality

    I fail to understand how you don’t see anything referring to handheld. If you read into it as you suggested I do you’d see this; “Rule 149 You MUST exercise proper control of your vehicle at all times. You MUST NOT use a hand-held mobile phone, or similar device, when driving or when supervising a learner driver, except to call 999 or 112 in a genuine emergency when it is unsafe or impractical to stop. Never use a hand-held microphone when driving. Using hands-free equipment is also likely to distract your attention from the road. It is far safer not to use any telephone while you are driving or riding - find a safe place to stop first or use the voicemail facility and listen to messages later.” A clear reference to ‘hand held’ as long as it’s not hand held that specific offence is removed. It’s no longer a handheld phone and it’s more of a DWDC or careless driving over anything else. Do you see where I’m coming from here? I’m not referring to my self by the way. I do not agree with the use of mobile phones while driving, nothing is that important. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. Ck01

    Mobile phone technicality

    The official offence refers to ‘hand held mobile phone’ the cradle still removes the ‘handheld’ element thus removing the offence IIRC, tapping away at it is no different to messing with your heater controls or CD player as long as your driving doesn’t suffer because of it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. So here’s one for any Traffic Officers on here, obviously all are aware on the law on handheld mobile phone usage, how would you handle this hands free situation? Say you’re in a queue of traffic at a set of lights, someone in front of you has their phone in a cradle, removing the hand held element, If they were texting in stationary traffic by tapping away on the screen, would you be trying to prosecute them for being distracted? Or would the fact the phone is not hand held, and the fact they’re sat still so their driving can not fall below a standard mean you’d have to leave them to it? Interested to know what your views are on this.. How would you go about proving they were suitably distracted, as the lights will be still in their range of vision, and they’ll not be sat there at a green light. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. A police chief once said, any member of the public who reports someone for undertaking should themselves be prosecuted too. Can’t agree more with that, if they were driving correctly they can not be undertaken. Full responsibility should be on the lane hog in my eyes, and reasonable man is right, next time you’re on a duel carriage way, sit at 60 in right hand lane. You’ll soon see it’s very common to be undertaken Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. So can you tell me what you’d do in that situation then? Speed match but in lane one. Causing a big tailback unnecessarily. Surely that could count as inconsiderate driving too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. I’m saying if you were a member of the public, how would you go about passing this person? I’m asking solely to improve my own driving ability’s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. How would you approach this situation as a member of public wanting to pass this car? Seems like catch 22, undertaking is bad, also getting behind them and flashing lights could get you done for aggressive driving by bullying? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. And I’m not alone in passing these cars, everything following me does the exact same, surely if you’d go after anyone it’d be the person right lane hogging. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. How would you prove the driving is dangerous, reckless or careless? It’s clearly not if done safely. As id more than likely be dead or banned by now if not. But I’m still here and with a clean licence. 138 refers to a 3 lane carriageway, and it says “you may use the middle or right lane to overtake” not MUST. And everything upto 145 is irrelevant after that. Undertaking is not illegal. Only if done dangerously Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. So you’re saying If you were in my position, you’d match the speed of the vehicle in lane 2 and not pass slowly on the inside? Causing tailbacks in lane 1 and reducing the speed of the carriageway to 40 for no reason, say a traffic cop observed the passing on the left, who would he pull? Me for passing on the left, or the other driver for not keeping left and lane hogging, which is equally inconsiderate driving, and in my eyes worse than what I do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. Find my self in this situation daily. Many of the roads I drive are two lane duel carriage ways, with roundabouts roughly every mile/ half mile. Here’s the situation, I’m traveling to the limit, conditions are good, speed is safe, using lane 1. As I’m making progress in light/ no traffic and I’m passing cars on the left who feel the need to do 40/50 in a 70, am I wrong in passing all these drivers on the left? Or should I be moving into lane 2, flashing them to move across. To pass them to then move back into lane 1? The HC Isn’t very clear on these situations, sorry if there’s already a thread for this, I couldn’t find it, and the few I’ve found on other sites have never had any clear answers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk