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  1. POM0272

    Chances of joining at 18?

    If you're good enough, you're old enough. It's as simple as that. There's no such thing as an ideal recruit. I would imagine most officers would agree you need a variety of personalities and ages on a shift. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that most recruits whatever their age, will not have seen or experienced what they will in this job. The job will quickly give you that experience... The only thing I'd say is that 18 think about yourself a little. Although you'll have a "job for life" - I really don't see Robocop taking over anytime soon - potentially you'll have a 42 year - in all likelihood probably 52 year - career doing shift work and running after and restraining undesirables. That's a long time and the effects on your body and mental state are a little unknown. Being a police officer has a big impact on your social life and you'll may find you miss out on doing the things your friends of a similar age do. There's very little room for making a big error of judgement outside of work that may cost you your job. There's a lot to think about trying your hand at this job, but good luck in your endeavours.
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    Missing Persons

    I locked one up for breach of court bail t'other day, whilst missing. You can guess what happened once the Mags had finished with them.
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    Bates Boots

    I've got a pair and found them to be true to size
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    Vests or Belts?

    I hate having my equipment stuck all over my vest. I much prefer it on my belt, though there is a problem getting in and out of cars. I have bought bits and pieces of my own equipment as it seems the uniform provided is quite frankly from the lowest bidder and isn't fit for purpose.
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    It seems to vary from person to person, I assume based on your medical history, employment background and general posture where I joined. I didn't strip down, but the Dr asked me all sorts of weird questions about stress, coping, my mental health in general and alcohol intake (despite never having problems with such or having been to my GP about any of these and I rarely drink alcohol). Other bobbies who joined at the same/similar time as me had the full strip down cough and drop/female equivalent. Others literally walked in and out. My Mrs had similar to me but had a strip down too.
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    Missing Persons

    Thanks for the replies.
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    Missing Persons

    Everyone's favourite subject I'm sure. Can anyone confirm our powers of detention and if necessary use of force in relation to juveniles? Assuming they're not wanted and are not committing offences. 1. If they're in local authority care? Are we allowed to detain if required and force them to return to a/their "place of safety"? 2. If they're not in care but have gone missing from their family home (assuming there's no disclosure meaning you can't return them)? Or would you ring parents tell them the location of their child and leave it to them (sorting out the safe and well check at your leisure)? The reality is most kids don't want to come with you when you find them. And it's quite annoying having to play cat and mouse if they start legging it or trying to negotiate them into your police car. Adults are easy if they're over 18 and don't want to return, fine.
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    A new career?

    The police recruit you for being you. It's a role that requires a variety of persons and personalities as well as different age groups and experiences. Whatever your background, the chances are you won't have seen what you will when you start out on the streets...for some people it's the sight of dead bodies. For me it's when you go round to a house and the parent/grandparent of a 6 month old think care is the best option, when it's actually the easiest for them. Or kids in care generally, you're literally watching the next generation of criminals/street prostitutes/heroin addicts being made, virtually no exceptions. On my intake I think the youngest was 23/4, the oldest about 46. I'd guesstimate the average was about 30ish.
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    A new career?

    Absolutely not. I was the only one on my intake who wasn't either a PCSO, civilian investigator or dispatcher. I got on fine and having no baggage helps a bit IMO, instead of being a bit cynical towards the job already. You'll start on a bit less money, however, which is the only downside.
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    A new career?

    Absolutely not. I was the only one on my intake who wasn't either a PCSO, civilian investigator or dispatcher. I got on fine and having no baggage helps a bit IMO, instead of being a bit cynical towards the job already. You'll start on a bit less money, however, which is the only downside.
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    A new career?

    As a male with a young child, I find the shift work is beneficial for quality time with them. Having moved from an office 9-5 type job, I've found I get to do more of the fun stuff during the day, like taking them out for days out to the seaside and parks during the week before starting work...and also passing on some of the more "challenging" times like bath, bed and tea. Today for example I'll be on nights, starting at 23:00. I've spent the day having a meal out then playing in a park and going to an aquarium. I'd be constantly having to wait for the weekend in my old job. The routine of which drove me bonkers. I'll be on rest days from Friday and be able to spend a further 3 days with my child...and time for myself playing cricket. I personally wouldn't go back to my old job if you doubled my old salary. I don't know how long that feeling lasts as morale is apparently at an all time low in the job. There are challenges in the police and it some times feels you spend your day chasing time wasters. However every so often you'll realise you've made a huge difference to someone's life by just doing your job.
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    Fitness Test

    Isn't there an equivalent test on a treadmill for officers who can't do the turning?
  13. Interesting. I wonder if it will be pushed through regardless?
  14. The way I read that link suggests everyone can get full whack, which goes against Winsor's "it's not expected every officer will achieve the standard". It would make it yet another bureaucratic boxing ticking exercise.
  15. http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Development/Promotion/Pages/Defining-and-Assessing-Competence-Pilot.aspx Defining and Assessing Competence Pilot The purpose of the pilot was to test and potentially adapt foundation and advanced level threshold assessments which introduce a link between competence and pay. The pilot was limited to the rank of constable but the process will eventually include all ranks up to and including Chief Superintendent. The Defining and Assessing Competence (DAC) Pilot ran from 1st January 2015 in a limited number of pilot forces including GMP; Cheshire; South Yorkshire; MPS; Thames Valley; South Wales; Sussex; and Gloucestershire.​ The aim The overall aim of the threshold assessments is to support the professionalisation of policing. The assessments are designed to ensure that officers, irrespective of any specialist role they perform, are able to undertake the core role of police constable and through continuous professional development deliver a consistently high level of service to the public. This will mean that nationally officers are working to the same standard of service and know what is expected.​ Within the pilot, officers and their line managers were required to complete the assessments at key points that they reached during the pilot year, i.e. approaching pay point 4 (foundation), pay point 7 (advanced) and those longer in service (re-assessment). The aim of the pilot was to test the methodology and consider the equality impact of the process. Officers were not be financially disadvantaged by participating within the pilot and still progressed through the pay scale under the existing arrangements. If you require any further information then please contact the College.