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MightyMouse last won the day on November 24 2015

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  1. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    it's not a case of how it used to be. It's a case of me not feeling I can recommend it as a job or career any longer. Looking at what probies get paid these days and what's asked of them, along with the conditions imposed I feel there are better alternatives out there. This job has a huge impact on personal lives, family lives and requires a lot of sacrifices. I used to suggest it was worth it but now I don't feel it is. Yes I have memories of how it used to be but when people ask me what it's like I can't lie. It's not worth the starting money paid and the impact it has on your life for new officers in my mind. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    i suspect you're right. I tutor new constables and the last lot I had through told me about their very (un)motivational speech from the chief they had when they started. He spent more time talking about how private policing would appear as it does in other countries and how it's no longer the job for life it once was than anything else. They're already on less pay. I suspect it's a dark future for new officers, possibly more so than us already serving. I used to recommend the police to everyone that wanted to join. Now I genuinely tell people not to apply. I still enjoy some days at work, but I'd hate to see my children enter this job and I warn others there are much better career options now. It's a sad fact, but I can't lie about this job. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    Although they have a habit of changing things we previously thought unchangeable I suspect contracts would affect new starters and not those already in the job. We shall see. Not good either way though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I know this feeling. We put out a ridiculously dangerous number on response now instead of the numbers we used to have. Our division had grown, is one of the busiest in the country and now we are relying on under skilled specials to make up response numbers. It's dangerous and clearly not working. We've had two officers hospitalised with serious injuries over the last 6 months and both taking weeks off work due to the injuries that were caused by assaults. Sent to jobs they should have been backed up on, on their own because there just wasn't anyone else. While this goes on we have people at our training centre stealing a wage teaching shockingly poor quality and often out dated courses. There are also others hiding on hoodie wearing 9-5 squads that deal with a fraction of what we pick up during the nights. The main people suffering with these cuts are the police staff losing their jobs and the response officers who are working harder and harder to keep themselves from injury while coping with an ever increasing demand and less staff to back them up. If the public knew how many were on my division the other weekend we'd have had looting I suspect. But we're constantly told not to tell people and to hide the numbers to reassure them. This is where we're going wrong. People should know there's only 1 or 2 response cops for a city centre one night and see how they feel about it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I suspect if the public were turned against us the changes we all fear would be the tip of the iceberg and would happen a lot quicker. What's happened so far is horrific but I suspect there's much worse dreamed up by the tories that perhaps they wouldn't get away with just yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    At the moment the public in general still feel like they need and want us. There will always be those that hate the police for whatever personal reason they have but I find that in general the public have sympathy for us and side with us with the cuts when I'm working. I'm not suggesting the public have been out fighting for the cuts to stop, but should we lose public support altogether we'd be in a lot worse situation if the public suddenly demanded huge changes or the majority felt we had let them down. It would be much easier for the government to destroy the police service as I suspect they want to for their own gains if the public were against us. A strike would give them this balance to allow much worse changes and attacks on our conditions and pave the way for much worse privatisation and profiteering. Casting back my memory to 2011 when the riots hit us I remember being out there with my shield at the front of it all. The public support was like nothing is ever seen before. People brought us food, they came up to thank us and they stood with us making our numbers up or cleaning the streets straight after we'd cleared the rioters. The general feeling from people I spoke with was that the police and public had united and solved the problem. There was a lot of dislike for the government who most saw as doing nothing. I'm sure this was noticed and worried them, much more than any strike by us would. You may sometimes feel public support isn't that strong for us, but I'd suggest the majority still support us. It's easy to be negative about public support but we are better to have them on our side than against us. The one thing the police service in this country is useless at is telling people how it is. We need more publicity about what the cuts are doing to the public's police services. Instead of hiding behind Chiefs chasing knighthoods or simply being out for themselves we need to tell the truth about why that burglary took a week to get to, why a public order team wasn't on hand for that disorder in time, why the traffic collision was missing an officer despite injuries. I'm not saying we should worry the public but tell them the truth and how it affects them. This scares May more than any strike would because it make her look bad. She's very keen to distance herself from such damage and currently tells the public numbers are the problem for each chief, not her. Why aren't we making more noise about her cuts and the damage se has caused? If we strike because of our conditions it will achieve nothing except lose the support the public have for us. Striking would play in to May's hands. I suspect she actually wants and may have even planned for a strike. If however we tell the truth about the cuts instead of trying to make it work at all costs and hiding how thin in numbers we are I believe this would achieve more and have a better result. May can't accuse us of scare mongering if chiefs and press teams were on side making noise about the cuts instead of the odd squeak from the fed now and then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I don't agree. The government know full well if we were to go on strike we'd lose whatever public support we have very quickly. And a strike by the police would give them a much easier time to implement further and harsher changes if they wished because they'd be able to show the police needed changing to avoid such problems again. If most officers didn't turn up one day for work all that would happen is they'd send out the troops or quickly deploy private security on masse to cover the cities. Then they'd have an open door to bash us on the news and move on with further privatisation. If we ever carried out a strike I have a feeling we'd achieve more for the government than we would for ourselves. It's a dangerous game. I think we often focus too much on the right to strike. What would it achieve for us? Nothing. It would only harm those we are meant to be fighting to protect. If some officers are thinking of striking then perhaps they're in the wrong job after all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I already mention that in the post you quoted. I don't know the full circs of that but from what I read there's a suggestion to me that the same may not apply to us. I'd have to do more research but that article made it seem like an Ireland specific issue that was challenged and beaten. Whether it would work here or not I don't know. But what I do know is that CS being brought in wouldn't automatically give us such rights. And again, even if we could strike there are many like me who wouldn't. While I'm angry at the government letting us down and reducing the protection the public enjoy from us, I would not increase the risk to the public by striking. My grievance with the government, not the public. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I used to do the odd half hour / hour now and then like a mug. Normally I got paid but accepted time back now and then if funds were short. Now if the pay isn't there the paperwork gets handed over. If there's nobody else to deal that's the issue the inspector gets paid to resolve not me. The latest one we're seeing now is being retained. Had it three times this week. Retained on duty because not enough numbers on the next shift. Sadly for the decision makers this isn't mandatory as they claimed. The mandatory 4 hours extra they wanted wasn't enforceable because it was planned so the regs didn't fit. They tried to twist it but got caught out. The result, the shift left on time and good will was gone again due to the way they approached this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I doubt it very much. Even the European courts recognise that the right to strike should be there for everyone except the armed forces and police service to ensure the stability of its members. I know there was a recent interesting change with the Garda but in all honesty if people think CS will see us with the right to strike I think they're wrong. On the subject of strikes, would anyone really do it? I know I wouldn't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    That's what I thought. Yet people at work and some on here seem to think CS would allow for such rights. I don't think the two are related and we'd certainly not get them. We'd just get kicked out and that's the end of it. No extra rights. When the government are planning a flash sale of law and order in the uk they don't want the shop staff making the sale less attractive by ruining things. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. MightyMouse

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    Having read through the thread for a good while now I keep seeing some people linking CS and industrial rights. From what I can see, bringing in CS won't automatically give us industrial rights. I can't see any way at all where we'll get industrial rights. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. MightyMouse

    Vests or Belts?

    Vest for me every day. I hate duty belts. They cause pain and they place weight on certain areas of the back that's not a good idea. We have to wear belts for public order duties but pretty much all other times it's tac vests. And the amount of people who complain of back pain after a day in a belt on foot is high. There have been studies about belts and back pain although nothing concrete in the uk it seems. Have a google, there are links. I also believe Arktis show an example of a force that cut injury time related to cal injuries when they started to use their vests instead of belts. I suspect one day we'll see a class action type of legal battle between a large number of retired officers and a police force over long term back pain. Until that day belts will remain.
  14. MightyMouse

    Applying for police

    Not sure people can help you with the competency questions to be honest. You'll be given a few questions about giving examples of when you've acted in a certain way, challenged someone or a behaviour or where you've shown understanding. You have to give genuine truthful answers and they're marked accordingly during papersift. If you score high enough you pass the papersift. If you score in the top so many percent (based on applicant numbers and vacancies) you'll be moved on to the next stage of recruitment.
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    Recruitment process help

    Some forces do their recruitment in different order. The interview can follow the assessment centre or be before it. Don't worry about it. Prepare by thinking why you want to be a police officer. What you bring to the role. Have a look at the current force and get an understanding of it. Look at the area and understand what issues there are, the make up of the communities and show a general knowledge that shows you know what you're talking about and have put time in to hour career decision. Have a look at the core competencies and get a few personal examples of those too. It's been years since I went through the interview but that's how I prepared and I'm still in the job today so it must have worked. Good luck.