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underneath the sky

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underneath the sky last won the day on August 22 2015

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  1. underneath the sky

    Pension Challenge

    I'm in the same boat I get my 30 in at 52 yrs 4 months however the deciding factor at the minute if I stay on till 55 isn't driven by money it will be what role I'm in at the time and the state of my health after 30 years on shifts. Im on response and will be for the foreseeable due to family commitments and if I remain on response I cannot at the minute believe i would want to stay on for nearly three extra years I'd rather get a part time job to make up the difference however as the remaining years left roll on I'm more than aware things can change which will dictate what my decision to stay or go when the time comes so I'll just keep everything crossed that it doesn't
  2. underneath the sky

    Pension Challenge

    With regards to the 87 scheme I managed to get an estimate for my pension that I had built up in that scheme now my tapering has finished the commutation figure provided were based on the current one for that scheme can anyone assist as to when the commutation figures are due to be changed again
  3. underneath the sky

    Public Holidays via NPCC

    From the fed Twitter page looks like it's the npcc and the met that are pushing for the change in bank holiday payments
  4. underneath the sky

    Public Holidays via NPCC

    You can bet your last pound this will be bulldozed in it would save forces quite a bit of cash for extra leave which they know some officers in large busy areas will not be able to take unless it's a midweek early turn try and get a weekend off no chance. With it already being run in Scotland it won't be long before we are being shafted again
  5. underneath the sky

    Pension Challenge

    I would say what you have accrued would not be touched but if you were still in the 87 scheme on the date that this is sorted surely you would just transfer to the care scheme on that date and lose the ability to retire on your 30 yrs and will have to work to 55 like everyone else who missed out on tapering and full protection
  6. underneath the sky

    Pension Challenge

    I fully support anyone challenging what clearly is unfair changes to our pension but if the claim is won surely hmg will appeal as it has implications for all the other public services that also offered the tapering system this will rumble on for years but good luck to those involved
  7. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    The contract issue would draw some interesting and worrying implications as if like the pension issues now and it effects everybody at some point what is to stop the powers that be giving an officer with 23 years service a 5 year contract taking their service to 28 years and then telling the poor officer that their services were no longer required and their pension was being deferred I think contracts are unlikely to happen but these days who knows!!!
  8. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    It's about time we forgot what has gone by in the past where officers would go the extra mile do overtime for lieu hours instead of pay and all this talk about we wouldn't go on strike because the public will suffer we need to wake up and realise cs will come in and be used will the public care not a jot they haven't supported us so far have they. Ask me over the last 20 years would I strike the answer would have been no I wouldn't have entertained the idea, ask me now the rules have been changed and we have been well and truly shafted and we are on the road to becoming employees then I'm sorry but my family come first so the answer would be yes I would
  9. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    could this just be our Chiefs playing a very clever game when is the next spending review is it December which is when the Chiefs could then turn around and tell us the issue is being revisited and blame hmg instead of them instigating the move for cs it might not happen but how much can you keep cutting
  10. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    I'd say it's more the bothered and can't be bothered if the last few years have anything to go by
  11. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    How do the fed stand if it's the chief constables that are begging for cs and not the government forcing it on us surely they would have had some dialogue with the respective bosses yet still no communication has come our way so it's the pension saga all over kept in the dark till it's too late
  12. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    a lot will depend on how far and how bad the cuts get as when things get tighter which they will and forces have cut as much as they can sold off what they can even merged with neighbouring forces and still cuts need to be made then the bosses will be faced with some difficult decisions one of which could be who can go out and do the job and who can't and review each restricted officer on a individual basis. Now I've nothing against restricted officers as you never know what's round the corner for you but when the cuts bite deep sentiment and doing right by your officers goes out the window
  13. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    Won't the severance of restricted officers throw up more legal challenges who will probably be protected by the disability discrimination act I could be wrong but I think most officers who are restricted will fight tooth and nail to remain in the job knowing that they are protected
  14. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    Cs will come in its inevitable however will it be rushed in I'm not so sure and it will certainly draw up the argument again of industrial rights as surely that will have to be seriously considered which may has already said she is dead against it which in my opinion when cs is brought in the fed can save a lot of money and not bother with a vote and just start the relevant proceedings to get us those industrial rights for us
  15. underneath the sky

    COMPULSORY SEVERANCE: The mother lode

    It will come it now looks like not only do hmg want it but some of our chief constables whether or not it is ever agreed that you can go straight to compulsory before you offer voluntary well that's another question which I cannot see happening even if it is the cheaper option. Does anyone know from the forces that have already gone down the vs route when can you access the pension that you have built up?