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Zulu 22

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  1. Zulu 22

    Fighting Erupts Outside Embassy

    The man is a coward afraid to face the accusations against him. Having tried to manipulate the law and legal process in this country, and failed. he is now trying to hide behind the skirts of a foreign embassy. It is strange that he has chosen Equador which has a disgusting record on free speach and human rights. Apparently on some World wide table on human rights issues they come in at 164th. How many times, as officers, have we seen cowards, trying to hide behind someone else's protection when found out.
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    Tia Sharp body found.

    Actually I thought that his article was well balanced and, to be brutally honest, true in so many ways. Using your own words he did have 30 years experience retiring as a D.I. FFS. As his article says he was born near to the area and Policed the area for many years. He is, perhaps like a lot of retired officers, in mourning for when Policing actually was about being on the street, speaking to the public, and yes gathering information from people whose trust you had gained., I see that Social Services are going to hold an enquiry! I hope they do not try to do while the case is ongoing, and that would give me cause to believe that the family were well known to Social Services. I feel another embarrassing enquiry about to emerge. That well know phrase will be muted "Lessons will be learned".
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    Poor Anthea

    Hey Mummy we agree. The woman, that's Anthea, not you, is so far up her own backside she can study her tonsils intimately.
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    Fighting Erupts Outside Embassy

    It just shows the mentality of his supporters. I bet that Jemma Khan and her fellows who stood bail for Assenge were pleased when they forfieted their sureties, although £250,000 is chicken feed for them I suppose.
  5. In India they live in tents, in a compound at the Police Stations. When they are needed they are turned out 24 hours of the day. The recruiting is caste driven. The loweer castes join as Constable's an can not be promoted about Sergeant. Sub Inspector's are appointed from the higher castes and they can get promoted. The wages are very low, and corruption is how the sytem works. They deal with things such as Passport applications. If there is not a minimum iof a 100 rupee note with the application it will not be processed. Fault in accidents is decided by which driver pays the officer the most money. Evidence disappears, for money, it just goes on and on. When I was in India I refused to tell people what my occupation was, so low was the standing of the Police. I then understood more, why the Asian community have a great reluctance to trust or interact with Police here. A mate, Joe Potts, went to Oz and the last I heard of him he was Policing at Alice Springs and the temperature was 110 degrees.
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    God help the UK

    Subject: She's Done it Again!!! 2nd Time--Wonderful !!!!!] Why oh why can't British Politicians be the same!!! Australia says NO - Second time she has done this! AMAZING: You must read it !!!! Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World. Truer words have never been spoken. Prime Minister Julia Gillard- Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.. Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. ' 'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society ... learn the language!' 'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' It then requested that we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA & the United Kingdom, WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths. And if you agreed with the sentiments to SEND THIS ON and ON, to as many people as you know.. Now having been on a diversity course I would never ever do this, but then again, now I have retired, the Diversity people can kiss my butt. I am all for free speech. Someone sent me this email, and although I do not like the woman for her anti Royal stance, we do need someone in this country with the same balls, so to speak..
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    Olympics (general)

    As she trains at the Manchester Velodrome and rides to and from the venue I have followed her for hours, mesmerised. I does not seem out of order either, as the speed she travels at I can just keep within the legal speed limits. As for Wenlock, they took his name from the Shropshire town of Much Wenlock which was the birth place of the Olympic Games which were set up in the 1800's by a local doctor, and they are still held today. They have a small museum if anyone wants the complete history of the Olympic games. It as after attending the games when Baron Coubetin got his inspiration for setting up the modern Olympics, as we now know them. And Much Wenlock still hold their Olympic Games.
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    Virgin Trains

    As a user of the West Cost line, Virgin Rail, I have not had any reason to complain. Manchester to Euston in less than 2 hours, clean efficient, and usually on time, and when not it is more often than not for the reasons already highlighted by Bikerider. As for returning to British Rail, no thanks. I worked at Crewe in my earlier years and the profligate waste and confusion around the whole of the BR set up was unbelievable. I remember dealing with a theft of Phosphor Bronze bearing and Copper from the railways. £1 million worth of metal that the railways did not even know was in this huge shed in the sidings. I can also remember the times then when trains were dirty, and more often late or cancelled. People have short memories, but some can remember the chaos caused by the Unions to the railways. At least the private companies face huge fines if something goes wrong. I fear that the bid will be like the Stagecoach one. At least the Virgin staff have experience and know how to run a train business. Yes I agree that Richard Branson is up his own backside, but I am more interested in the service Virgin give rather than an over rated spoiled brat. I must say that although the service by Virgin from Manchester to Euston is excellent, it cannot compare with the excellence of the journey from Euston to Manchester, especially if you get off at the stop before Piccadilly. Pricing of travel is a different issue and one which the government need to get to grips with. As for other providers my main compliant would be paying for a ticket seat and there being no seat available, because of too few carriages. When I pay for a seat I expect to have one available, even if it is next to a drunken Council leader or politician (another story completely).
  9. Zulu 22

    Our Sargent's are the best!!

    The same as Piccard999. This Sargeant leaves a lot to be desired, possibly verbal advice. A proper Sergeant may have acted differently. Still having a problem with the subject heading though. Do the British Transport Police have a P.R. officer
  10. Zulu 22

    Our Sargent's are the best!!

    Education is a wonderful thing. All my dictionary's show the spelling of Sergeant as being Sergeant with an "e" NOT as Sargeant with an "a". Oops, dear, dear; well it is the British Transport Police.
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    The Winsor Report Thread

    The Federation have opposed this for years. If an officer was in a control room, or office job then he/she should be on the same money. For this not to be the case puts into the hands of the SMT a means of punishing an officer, financially, as some form of disciplinary measure, perhaps with no evidence or proof of such. I mean really, could anyone see the SMT holding a kangaroo enquiry and punishing someone on supposition. For those with rose tinted glasses, I am sorry because this does, and has happened many time in the past. It will also happen in the future but, if Windsor is followed, it will become a distasteful, and unjust reality. Perhaps it show just how little Windsor unstands the Police mentality and life.
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    Tia Sharp body found.

    We would all need to be in possession of all the facts before we could reach a logical opinion. On the face of it I would be extremely disappointed as in any Misper case, the first action is to search the house. Doing this thoroughly can avoid a huge waste of Police time and energy. I have been involed in at least two cases; one where the kids was curled up asleep begind the sofa, and one when the child was in the loft. He had been on an exploration, closed the loft hatch, played and explored and then fallen asleep. But at this point we just do not know. As for the neighbours being very disappointed with the Police action, it is a pitty that they have not come up with the same criticisim of the Grandmother and family. So lets wait for the full facts before we try to excuse or crucify.
  13. Zulu 22

    Manchester United Stock Debut

    It is all the add on revenue, Sponsorship, advertising, TV rights and revenue, marketing tect, etc. What really sticks in the throat is the fact that the Glazers managed to take over United by using no money of their own, and putting the Club that they took over £750 million in debt. It was that debt that they had puirchased the club with. Before the take over Man United were £millions in the black. I have not visited Old Trafford since the Glazers came in, and I was inseperable from the place at one time. United now treat supporters like rubbish, fit to pay but not allowed to have an opinion.
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    Now what was that communication from my other service days, oh yes "Send three and four pence were going to a dance"
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    Bizarre old laws of the land

    Stalybridge Police and Markets Act, 1861, Section 42, "or by any means whatsoever disturbs the peace and good order of the Town". I knew od one lad on his 21st swung round a No Waiting sign and shouted yippee,(He was unfortunate as on that night as some "Hells Angels" had been running riot. He was represented by a Barrister who asked to see the Act and the Section, which was duly supplied. He advised his client to plead "Guilty". The Magistrates fined him £10 and that was when the Barrister proved his worth when he pointed out to the Magistrate that the maximum fine was £2. Section 42 was a Godsend for when an officer had slightly over stepped the mark. It was also an offence for three or more people to gather together in the street. Womens Institute members beware.
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    Tia Sharp body found.

    Neither do I, or you. I know that if someone had been digging in the garden there would have been some signs. We will have to wait before the details become known, and even then they might not be disclosed.
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    Nowhere does it say a deal has been reached. You really need to get up to speed on how these things work. Your pay deals are usually announced in September and your rises when indexed work on the September figures. The Governent do not tell anyone what their decision is. They make an announcemnet in September, they always have, and it is only then that other parties become aware of the details. The Federation are just informing you that the Government will make an announcement in September, nothing more, nothing less. Way back in the Edmund Davies enquiry era the Federation had a good idea of the enquiries findings because his Honour Lord Edmund Davies had spoken to other Judges, and Judges official Police drivers have ears. It is about time some people stopped berating the Federation for their perormance. It is very difficult negotiating with the PNB or the Home Office, as it is like trying to talk to a rock, at times.
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    Tia Sharp body found.

    Yes I can see there being further ramifications about this. The very first action, as you say, is for Police is to search the house thoroughly. It seems beyond imagination and credability that a correct and thorough search had been made.
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    Yes it is but it could even be that the Federation are funding this. It may be because they have to. If he was serving at the time, and he waqs a fully paid up member of the Federation then he would qualify for lwegal assistance. It might stick in the craw a bit, but you cannot change the rules to suit. Of course I am having to assume that he has been referred by the Federation, but to be certain you would have to have Full knowledge of the case, and I do not.
  20. Zulu 22

    Olympics (general)

    The Irish water polo team have drowned 6 horses.
  21. Zulu 22

    MP's still at it.

    Bastard! Oops there I go again with personal attacks, naughty Zulu, naughty.
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    The Winsor Report Thread

    Just to confirm, from experience that you are better off retired. My pension after deductions, income tax, Narpo deduction, was about the same take home as Pay when serving, less N.I., Pension contributions, and other deductions. Then take account of the travelling expenses, which you no longer have to find, and the costs of refreshments and other work related expenses, in my case I was quids in. Also a lot depends on the pay day in your respective force. In my case I got my final pay credit on the Friday which was the 29th of the month. Two days later on Monday 1st I received my first months pension, as pensions are paid in advance. That gave me two pay days within 3 days. Then because my force were not complying with Regulations in paying over time owed after a certain length of time, I demanded that my time due be converted to pay. They said they could not do that as my overtime record had gone astray. I informed that I was not surprised and it was a good job that I had kept a Photostat copy of my overtime time due record. They were heartbroken but I received another bank credit for 172 hours cto. They knew that I had asked for the time off and had been refused, when they had failed to pay me. This issue had been taken up before retirement. I demanded that the cto be paid or I would take them to the small claims court. All in all it was a good week with the equivalent of 3 months pay inside a month. And if over 55 your pension is immediately index linked, even though they now use CPI instead of the RPI. To get the same take home pay I would have to be working a full 40 hour week. As a side consequence the Federation managed to force the SMT into applying the over time regulations correctly; my parting gift to the SMT from the Polfeds I.B.B.
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    MP's still at it.

    Fortunately Boles is unlikely to breed. Is there no end to the hypocrisy of our elected leaders. Batting for the other side is no longer a crime, but fraud still is, unless it is an M.P. involved. Who and when is someone going to take them to task and make them pay for their indiscretions. If Boles has to go through circumscision can I volunteer to perform the op.
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    What a dope

    Already on yesterday under the heading "Another Fool" on the News forum section. Just shows how soft Judges have become.
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    Another Fool

    Another soft Judge letting the side down as well.