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  1. DAVE8999

    Are You Frontline?

    The point I am making is that without the government defining front line - every thing that they, police authorities and chief constables say about protecting the front line is meaningless. They may as well say we are protecting the pink and purple people eater.
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    Are You Frontline?

    And another thing .... the wording of the survey is hardly conducive to either a) getting a truly representative response from the readership good relations with those who either don't know whether they are frontline, or are carrying out other roles, but are still part of the policing family. A them and us approach will only play into the hands of those who seek to divide and conquer.
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    Are You Frontline?

    You have to remember that this is not the governments definition of frontline but that of an ex copper. When it comes to the spin about whether frontline resources have been affected by the cuts etc, then the government will produce a definition that matches their rhetoric. This is why I believe that it is absolutely essential that the federation and all staff associations push the governemnt to nail it's colours to the mast and come up with a definitive version of what it considers frontline. It is only then the the success or failure of their cuts can be truthfully judged. It is important for another reason as well - I get the feeling that many officers just don't know whether they are considered to be frontline or not. This in itself has an effect on moral, the amount of media coverage, and things said by management about how vital the frontline are, must provide some crumb of comfort for those who are, but what about those in the grey areas? By definition by saying how much we value the frontline, we are saying the opposite to the rest. I urge you to contact your fed reps, your chief constables and your MP's, to make this definition of frontline policing a priority. When it comes to the negotiating table, we cannot negotiate unless we know exactly what this means.
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    Facebook & Essex Police

    Just followed your link as well, calmed me down immensely. Handbags at dawn, they need to be careful in case someone breaks a finger nail.
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    Facebook & Essex Police

    Point taken, but if it's in the daily mail it can't have been that private? You are quite right about out of proportion, but since when has that ever got in the way of good police beating from the great unwashed? My point is that we can't sit back and expect those that support us to make the same noise as those that hate us. By their very nature, these are people who just keep quiet and get on with life. I want the police to start adopting the same tactics as others, fight spin with spin - but in our case we have truth on our side. Politicians listen to the vocal minority - policies to suit those that shout the loudest. It's time our voice was heard - not just on the subject of police reform, but on everything we do. I bet if you ask the public what we actually do they wouldn't have clue. Ask them what they want us to do, and it compare it with the reality and lets see where we go. Instead of a one off like GMP with twitter, start telling the public about all the crap that takes up a police officers day. Publish every day the idiot 999 calls. Let the public really know what we are up against. Everytime some expert stands up and says they should have done this that or the other, give a reply, an honest answer, not an excuse, give an apology if one is deserved, but if someone else in the system failed - point the finger. Make it be known, that we are doing our best, but sometimes have to accept that others best is not the same standard. I feel like I'm having a rant now, so I'll stop. Standing up and publicising ourselves properly is something I have always felt strongly about, from a report I submitted in my probation (nearly 20 years ago) about how there is never any positive police news in our local paper, all the way up to now. I've got a day off work and some grouting to do, so I'll calm down now.
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    Facebook & Essex Police

    It does make you wonder if the posters (on facebook) have given any thought to the wider issues involved? At this time we need public support more than ever. We need to keep the gobs of vocal minority who hate us for everything do (but when asked what should replace the police they have no clue) well and truly shut. Saying these things just gives them more to shout about, whilst those who do support the police, or more importantly those who have no strong views either way just keep quiet and carry on living their lives. Giving ammunition to the noisy ones, just creates confusion, and may help to sway those who are undecided. At this time more than any other, when we are struggling to maintain our position, every single officer has to not only be professional and excellent, but be seen to be. We need to win hearts and minds of the public that we want to support us. That means that those who don't have dealings with us, where we can show them what we actually do on a daily basis, need to learn about us through other ways. At the moment there are very few positive messages about the value of the police service, but plenty of stories where negatives can be told. We will always be the public face of justice, yet much of what happens is in the hands of others - the courts, the cps, our "partner" agencies. We should stand up and point the finger. We should crack down hard on anyone who falls short of what we expect, both internally and externally. Every day we should prove out loud and for everyone to see that we are worth every penny we are paid both in our monthly take home pay and the pension we get.
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    Facebook & Essex Police

    Well there's a few jobs that could be cut straightaway. Anyone that stupid shouldn't be a copper anyway. What will they do when they really have to use their brains for something? Only defence they may have is that it's not true as it was reported in the Daily Mail, however I'm not sure that will wash.
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    Stupid Woman

    Problem is, we represent society. We recruit from society. And we have to make sure that we are equal employers. Therefore we end up with the same people as we get in society. Lots of things to say re equal employers, but in todays age of uncertainty, discretion on this occasion is the better part of humour.
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    Public Order Offence ?

    FreeB.E.A.G.L.E.S.: Legal Advice for Activists (v4)Section 5 Public Order Act 1986. This is by far the most commonly used piece of legislation on demos, and the one with which activists will be most familiar. A person is guilty of this offence if he a) uses threatening, abusive words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress.
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    Opsre Part 1 and Methods of Study

    When all else fails try this top tips: If there are three yes's and one no, or similar, then the answer is the one there is only one of. This is because the question writer has not been able to create a second plausible "right" but wrong answer. If one of the answers is significantly longer than the rest, that's the answer. This is because the question writer has not put sufficient information in the stem (the gumpf that gives you the information on what the question is based) and has had to put extra in the answer. If technical terms or specific terminology appear in the stem (see above) and only one of the answers, it's worth giving this one a punt. There is no replacement for knowing your stuff, however if you absolutely haven't got a scooby, and one of the above appky then you have nothing to lose. Such things are supposed to be weeded out by the exam designers. I know from experience that they still appear in multiple guess exams. Good luck to everyone jumping on the no hope of promotion for years wagon!
  11. I may have missed it, because there is so much gumpf going around, but does anyone know what happens next? There appears to have been a deafening silence from the government. The review is out, the recommendations are there. What now? Until someone does something they are recommendations only. Or are they waiting for todays pensions announcement so they can hit us with a double whammy? It seems to me the future continues to be uncertain, and I for one would like some sort of timescale, so that I can hold out for the best price when I have to sell my children into slavery, and the dog to a restuarant.
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    Is it any wonder why??

    Thanks for posting this, it turns out that by following the link I have discovered a serious error in my internet connection. I read the story all the way through and couldn't find criticism of the actual police who investigated the case, or arrested the lad. I am assuming it must have been in a bit my computer failed to download. It managed to get the bit about the witness care officer, who got off a bit lightly really. I particularly liked the way that individuals from across the board were named and shamed. I often wondered whether it would make a difference, if this happened. As it stands, the police are the public face of the justice system, and consequently the finger is always pointed at them. Whereas often times, it's someone outside the police who should be identified, whether it's the CPS, the Judge or whoever. Let's see what decisions they make when they know the public scorn they will face.
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    De-selection interview help

    Interviews should be based around your competency framework - i.e. the list of skills and attributes that are in your role requirement, and reported upon each year in your personal developent review. Poor interviewees often have no idea what their actual role requirement is, and thus can't provide evidence of how they perform in accordance with this. Additionally if there are specific perfgormance targets for your unit, know what they are and how you contribute to them. Some elements may have a bigger impact on your success than others, for example demonstrate poor race and diversity and no matter how good the rest is, you may not get the job. In these times of nay sayers and doom and gloom, your panel will probably not enjoy hearing the same stuff, so be positive and enthusiastic. But don't fake it. Good luck.
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    PC and PCSO stabbed

    Something I spotted on the news tells a tale about the police these days - main ITV news at 10pm, the news report about this came in 12 minutes into the report and lasted less than 20 seconds. Does the public care so little? Soon stories like this will be feautured in the bit where they say "and another thing...."
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    BBC News-GMP

    Sorry can't agree there. How many child abusers do you think will be tracked down by those frontline staff people seem to be so desperate to protect. Child abusers walk the streets, but don't need to snatch kids off the street. They have a whole new playground to work in, one where no amount of frontline resources are going to find them. Contrary to public belief (and many coppers) you can't "spot them a mile off " either. Similar issues arise when we are talking about serious and organised crime. Sure there is an issue with people bean counting and the like, but I don't like the way some police officers are starting to snipe at others. Perhaps it's time to stand together. Ask the public what they want police officers to do, but do it an open and honest way, not with a slanted list that only gives them the choices of the things we want them to tell us to do (my force did this recently in a public survey).