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We hope this section will become both a 'Virtual Classroom' and a 'Virtual Support Group' for those preparing for either of the Part 2 exams. Often a less structured preparation process than for the Part 1, it may be of assistance for officers to have an area to swap advice, get support, and ask specific question of those that know.

 

To this end, Phil Waters, Cert Ed, from OSPRE Promotions will be on hand in this section of the forum to answer questions and get involved in discussions as required. Phil is an ex Surrey Inspector from their Training School and was a training consultant for National Police Training.

 

Forum members might also find some of the assistance given in the OSPRE Part 2 pages on the main Police Oracle site helpful (http://www.policeoracle.com/careers/ospre_part_2.html)

 

Good luck from the Police Oracle team.

 

 

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Here's some free advice:

The best advice I can give is that you seek out a training provider, giving attention to the following considerations:

- Make sure the trainer who will actually be delivering your training is a qualified and current OSPRE assessor/role actor/management team member. (Lots of people call themselves 'qualified assessors' based on the fact they are 'qualified' to train by the company whose product they are selling!) You also get the 'I've been training for 15 years angle' or 'I wrote an exam station in 2001' nonsense. The real-life OSPRE exam assessors' qualification lapses if they do not requalify at least once in any three-year period. Also watch out for those who were assessors ten years ago etc as the exam changes year on year and what was accurate two or three years ago may not be now.

- You should never be required to role act and assess each other on a course. People do these courses to learn how to pass the exam, not how to be assessors or role actors. My opinion is that companies who ask delegates to role act and assess each other are out of order.

- The smaller the class size the better.

Whatever advice you are given by others remember there is no substitute for DEALING with the problem(s) that the scenarios present. I hope this advice assists you as there are some good training providers out there but also some cowboys...

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Hi Foz Man, <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

            Thank you for your comments, some of them I think are very sound.  Class sizes for Part 2 training must be small as you say, but I think the issue of the trainer is an interesting one.  I think it is much more important that the trainer is a good trainer than an OSPRE Trainer assessor.  I know some very good people training Part 2 who are not OSPRE trained, and some very poor people who are trained who are trying to deliver training.  The crucial factor is the results they get.  Ask for the percentage of passes, that will tell you lots.

 

The issue you raise about role acting and marking is also a good point.  I would say it depends a lot on under which circumstances you are asked to do these things.  In a group of say four students with one trainer, (in my view the best ratio) one student role acting while the trainer assesses is in my view ideal.  Remember the exam is about both what you do and also how you do it.  If you can experience three other 'How you do it's' that gives you a great deal of learning about how best to deliver the solution to the different scenarios.

 

As far as marking the station is concerned I have the view that if the trainer does the main marking job, but invites the other students to complete a marking guide too, then an understanding of the complexities of the marking guides can also be gained and can prove most beneficial. 

 

What I am in total agreement with you is that in a big class with just one trainer to get the delegates to mark and role act to one another is a big no no. You do not know what you are looking for, or how to deliver lines, and that is almost of no value as a learning experience. A closely monitored group of about 1 to 4 with an experienced trainer will produce the best results.

 

The Trainer       

 

 

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In my opinion, going on a training course is pretty essential, but so is studying in your own time, just like any other exam! Get yourself some mock workstations (I got some from http://www.copcoach.co.uk but there are plenty of others out there) grab a friend or partner to help (pretty embarrassing but gotta be done!) and do as many as possible.

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I would have to agree with you Stephen 999 about getting your hands on as many scenarios as you can to practice with. I have been involved in successfully training officers to pass Part 2 since 1999, and I have a lot of high quality stations that have been developed over the years.  <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

We have provided all the information Police Oracle has in its careers section under part 2. This includes a full station with marking guide, role actors instructions, and a simple guide how to prepare fore the 5 minute scenario.

 

These have been packaged up into a highly polished booklet.   If you want to buy any extra stations e-mail me on phil@timetraining.co.uk and I will post some out to you.     

The Trainer

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