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Everyone's favourite subject I'm sure. Can anyone confirm our powers of detention and if necessary use of force in relation to juveniles? Assuming they're not wanted and are not committing offences.

1. If they're in local authority care? Are we allowed to detain if required and force them to return to a/their "place of safety"?

2. If they're not in care but have gone missing from their family home (assuming there's no disclosure meaning you can't return them)? Or would you ring parents tell them the location of their child and leave it to them (sorting out the safe and well check at your leisure)?

The reality is most kids don't want to come with you when you find them. And it's quite annoying having to play cat and mouse if they start legging it or trying to negotiate them into your police car.

Adults are easy if they're over 18 and don't want to return, fine.

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Its going to depend on why the child is in the care of social services and the attitude of the care home.  Most of the time we take them home or verify them when they have returned of their own accord but there are other occasions when we leave them where we find them if they are in a place of safety.  A small minority have recovery orders in place which gives a power of entry but they are the exception to the rule and only applies where there is a risk to the child.

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Surely you kniw what your powers are. If you do not know your powers then there is not much hope.

Not helpful Zulu.

It's a very grey area and depends heavily on the local authority and social services, ie whether they will enforce their own rules or assist in any way and this often puts police in a difficult situation.

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It is not rocket science, you either know your powers in relation to a case or you do not.

Zulu, you're well out of touch on this subject. It isn't as simple as just police powers, it's about safeguarding and multi agency working and joint decisions. If it were just police powers we would not look for kids missing from local authority homes much at all as A. MOSTLY they have just chosen not to go back at the correct time, and B. They are not missing!

 

And if you have nothing constructive to add for the OP maybe ignore this topic!

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I often find the local healthcare and other relevant authorities in relation to dealing with minor mispers are so disconnected from the reality of what they are doing they call police immediately to avoid being sued.

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I often find the local healthcare and other relevant authorities in relation to dealing with minor mispers are so disconnected from the reality of what they are doing they call police immediately to avoid being sued.

Which is all the more reason why police should stop doing the 'right thing' and simply do the 'lawful thing'

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Let us be fair about some of this. I am sure that we have all experienced detaining a Misper from a local authority home, returning them to the home, for them to go missing again within minutes of return.  Social Services have a lot to answer for.

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