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  1. The same things are illegal in both countries, just covered by different legislation. So for example in England if you smack someone then you have a variety of bits of legislation depending on the severity, intention etc. In Scotland you have the common law offence of assault or if it's really bad serious assault. I'm perhaps simplifying it a little & my personal knowledge of Scots law is well over a decade out of date so forgive any inaccuracies. Without knowing the exact nature of your colleagues enquiry I suspect that it comes down to the difference between arresting on suspicion in England & Wales (sorry NI I don't know which law system you use) & detaining on suspicion in Scotland. The detention period is a measley 6 hours & it only changes from detention to arrest once you have sufficient to charge. You can go on to investigate further offences once they have been arrested but if you have insufficient to charge at the end of the 6 hours detention cannot arrest & must release them. Doesn't sound great but then they don't have PACE so waiting around for solicitors & disclosure aren't issues. Anyway there are a number of possibilities as to why they couldn't arrest on your behalf. They can't arrest on suspicion, only detain. If for example they were asked to arrest for a Section 18 wounding that offence doesn't exist in Scotland. If your colleague intended to travel to interview it may be the 6 hours would be up & they couldn't hold them any longer so it would be pointless. As I say all just speculation without knowing circs & being a bit out of date with my Scots law.
  2. Joining the police with a degree

    Of course, in current times you could join direct entry as an Inspector or Superintendent if career progression is all you care about, it would appear to make little difference that you'd have no experience or know what you're talking about. On the back of being a special, who are currently getting more specialist training in an effort to retain them than regular officers get, you should be in good stead to jump the queue. Just remember in 20-30 years time when the government of the day are political point scoring by micro analysing, with the benefit of hindsight, on the spot decisions made at the time whose heads it is that roll. My advice would be don't do it. It's not like it is on TV. There must be better jobs you can get with your degree.
  3. Mobile 'Phone use.

    Be nice if the controllers didn't try to contact me via my handheld device or the handsfree one in the car whilst I'm driving.
  4. Is this a Joke - Diversity?

    Gee you mean I should be promoted for thinking like a CC? Sadly I'm the lowest of the low & can only think in common sense, hence the smiley on my previous post.
  5. Is this a Joke - Diversity?

    Perhaps such an officer could be in charge of the spit hoods. They'd be well protected by their own coverings on approach to a spitting prisoner & he couldn't really complain once the hood was on if the person applying it was already wearing one
  6. Spit Hoods.....

    I'm sure her organisation won't mind forking out the laundry bills for all the uniforms spat on. In fact maybe we should bag them up & send them to her en masse.
  7. Spit Hoods.....

    Back in the day I had the displeasure of being in the back of a van with a man I'd recently arrested. He wasn't best pleased about it so had to be handcuffed to the rear & put on the floor in the van with me sitting on the bench holding him down so as to prevent him getting up & further expressing his annoyance. There were no leg restraints back then & I'd never even heard of the conflict resolution thingy. To my horror the young man decided to turn his head & start spitting at me. Carrying out a dynamic risk assessment (which I'd also never heard of back then) the only way I could see to prevent this was to move my spare hand to the young mans head & direct it away from me, thereafter holding it in that position using reasonable force for the rest of the journey. I suspect he was very uncomfortable. I often think of that incident during OST & how things have moved on. Leg restraints & a spit hood would have made that unpleasant young mans journey far more humane. The spit covered hood would have been good evidence too.
  8. Screenplay Research

    I don't think I released/ revealed anything that isn't already in the public domain already, however if admin feel I have stepped over the mark anywhere then please delete.
  9. Police ranks & structure

    Hone your skills in golf & 5 a side. The latter should get you your detective title & once you've established which club the relevant bosses belong to the former should get you up the ranks as quick as any direct entry scheme
  10. Screenplay Research

    I can't think of any reason why PNC would hold details of a victims parents. Even if both were criminals it wouldn't necessarily link them unless they were criminal associates & their misdeeds whilst acting together had been recorded on PNC. Local crime recording/ intelligence systems may hold this information if a non criminal parent had acted as appropriate adult for the victim as a child or vulnerable person. There are a number of other ways peoples details come onto police systems without them being criminals, for example a domestic arguement or missing person where assessments need made to establish risk. Even if people have not been linked by computer systems then good old common sense can prevail & for example if they've been living at the same address together since one of them was a child & have the same surname then it is possible they're related. The old cop sitting in the corner who's worked the area forever is normally an invaluable source of information. Information on PNC is available to all, however not all can log into it so an officer may need to find someone who can or call the details over the radio to the control room. Anything done on PNC is strictly audited & officers are regularly asked to justify why they have carried out checks to ensure it was for a policing purpose. So checking out if your neighbour has convictions or entering the number plate of the attractive person you saw to obtain their address is a no no & could lead to criminal conviction. It's a good idea to keep a note of why you have requested a check so you remember when asked about it weeks later having carried out many more in between. In relation to Specials you are correct, they do not get paid however recruitment of regulars nowadays prefers people with a background in the policing family so being a special, PCSO or civilian staff is generally considered a good stepping stone.
  11. Tattoo's - Federation

    It may be that she wants to encourage people of Maori origin to apply & is respecting their diversity
  12. Tattoo's - Federation

    When I had an upper arm tattoo done many moons ago the tattoo artist, who was over from the USA told me many of his police customers had their badge & number tattooed. That wasn't what I was having done (lucky really as I was about to transfer & get a new number & force coat of arms) but he did raise the question of how they would blend in in circumstances where they did not want anyone to know they were police.
  13. Fitness Test

    A trying to stay awake after 4am on nights would be a far more job relevant test for those of us the wrong side of 40.
  14. Fitness Test

    So the question still remains what consequence is there for those who can't do it or those who never seem to be required to do it? If there is none then what motivation is there for someone who thinks they might be a bit touch & go to make any additional effort? Oh & before I'm shot down in flames here, despite being no fan of the test, I do it year after year so am being a bit devils advocate rather than trying to find excuses for myself or justify others.
  15. Death by Taser

    Well I had considered volunteering but they can stick their taser now so far where the sun doesn't shine that they'll need antman to extract it. I'm not blue lighting to anything either or renewing when my authorisation expires