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  1. Direct entry DCs are not exactly the most popular change to happen to the police in recent years, partly because police look at candidates as missing out on the hard, boring and unpleasant side of the job by starting straight away as an investigator who doesn't get their hands dirty. I may also be misinterpreting Susan's thought process behind her debate to go for a uniformed role or to reapply as a DE DC, but I hope you're not looking at a uniformed role as being second best in comparison to the DCs role. Starting in uniform gives you a great grounding in dealing with a wide variety of incidents right at the start of the process and also gets you used to dealing with aggression as well as the smells and unpleasant side of the job. It also means that you might have more opportunity to move around more later which may mean better promotion prospects if that interests you.
  2. Rude and unsympathetic police officers

    Its amazing how many people call the police to get their allegation on record first yet turn out to be the source of the problem...
  3. NSL leeway of 1mph

    I think Bangham's proposal with alienate vast swathes of the public who are currently given some leeway or discretion when they make an honest mistake.
  4. Arch. I started to look at your survey but didn't answer any questions as I didn't think the questions on page 1 would give you any useful data. I can't think of anyone who would want to say anything else other than agree or strongly agree unless they are trying to be mischievous. If you asked 'does Sussex police provide clear and engaging information on their website' then you'd get a more useful response.
  5. Where to live

    Hi Susan. I'm not MPS so I can't give much advice about where to live but you do tend to find that nowadays PCs tend to live away from where they work because of the perception that criminals will target them. By and large that doesn't happen but you do get the odd person who gets fixated on a specific PC or the police in general. Secondly I started at 40 and absolutely love what I do but nowadays government 'reforms' have made the job less attractive than it used to be particularly for the more mature starter. Starting salaries have been cut and pensions are less generous than they used to be, whilst cuts in general have made promotion harder and there are less resources for us to do our jobs properly.
  6. Pension Challenge

    The judges seem to have had a favourable outcome.
  7. Driver training !!

    It varies between forces and roles. In my force its a bit of a lottery as to when response officers get their standard course with some getting lucky and getting theirs within a few months of starting whilst others have to wait 6 months to a year. A couple of years ago there was a TV documentary series about Lincs probationers which showed them getting their standard courses just after they finished in company which is very early but really useful when you work in a such a rural force where officers are spread very thinly.
  8. SEARCH assessment centre

    I can't recommend any courses in particular but I've just done and internet search and found
  9. SEARCH assessment centre

    Police assessment centres aren't like any other so you may want to look into a preparation course to give you some help and experience.
  10. Torches

    I hate marmite so I'd definitely go for a Led Lenser or something similar. They are smaller, lighter and a lot more effective than any Maglite I've seen.
  11. Case files

    Potentially MG3, MG4, MG5, MG6T MG6c/d/e depending on force, court and anticipated plea, MG9, prosecutors prints and witness prints, MG16 pre cons/bad character.
  12. There's an interesting thread on PPRuNE (professional pilots rumour network) about NPAS, especially page 10 which has a table of costs and hours flown.
  13. it really depends what he is looking for. If he is looking for a Midsummer Murders or Morse style murder mystery then it would be spot on but if he is trying to write a realistic police procedural then he is miles away from anything realistic.
  14. Nowadays you'd be lucky to get one overworked DC to cover a GBH let alone 2 DIs. Sergeants and Inspectors tend to have a management role in investigations and in their departments as opposed to being hands dealing with suspects and witnesses.
  15. Fitness Test

    Its not that hard but some people fail it due to problems with technique more than anything else. If you are concerned when your test comes let other people in the group go first, watch a few people and listen to the trainer's tips.
  16. We need some sort of representation but I joined the police to be a police officer not a Fed rep, but given that I am a paying member I expect them to try to act effectively on my behalf and quite frankly I very rarely see that from the national Fed. Locally they are quite effective so I have got some admiration for some officials but they are a laughing stock nationally. There is another old saying that if you own a dog why bark yourself.
  17. Ah the Fed's strongly worded letter, their main weapon of choice. I'm left wondering of if they are still keeping their fabled powder dry because I don't see much evidence of them doing anything effective to counter Tory spin regarding the police. May's response, if she deems it worthy to respond to, will be to repeat the mantra that finding is protected, police have adequate resources, funding has increased, reforms are working and crime is down with any increase being due to better recording, and last but not least they have fully approved the PRBs pay recommendation.
  18. When is a pay rise not a pay rise?

    NI and our pension contributions have also gone up in the last couple of years as well.
  19. When is a pay rise not a pay rise?

    May must have taken lessons from the DM and taken one small aspect of police pay and focused all her attention on it. Its a shame then that she didn't mention that the 1% bonus doesn't apply to unsocial hours payments or overtime and that it is going to be paid for from reserves or budget cuts. The much vaunted protected budget for my force means that our budget is falling year on year even before the effects of 2.8% inflation are taken into account.
  20. When is a pay rise not a pay rise?

    Lets contrast our pay situation with an MP's pay. They received an 11% pay rise three years ago after agreeing to reduce some of their expenses. They also agreed to link their future pay rises to the average rise in public sector pay. So far so good, however once their pay grew by 11% it also boosted their pensions as the expenses they had originally received would not have affected their pay and therefore wouldn't benefit their pensions. IIRC tax payers had to pay a few million £ into their pension pot in order to help keep it fully funded. Secondly linking their pay to public sector rises also mean that it would be affected by increments and changes to the national minimum wage. There is two problems with that. First Tories hate increments as they don't see why pay increases should be linked to time in a job, but they now seem happy to benefit from that system in terms of their own pay rises. Secondly a lot of public sector workers earn the NMW such as cooks, cleaners, drivers etc, so whenever the NMW goes up and remember the government has boosted that so that it has kept pace with inflation whilst the rest of public sector wages have been capped, MPs will benefit. That is why they have received a 1.5% and 1.4% pay rise since the 11% rise whilst the headline rate for police, teachers, nurses etc has been capped at 1%. MPs pay rises automatically yet ours is assessed by a so called independent pay remuneration board which seems to have recommended 2.8% this year yet the government has only awarded us 1% with the other 1% coming from further savings or force reserves. MP's pay awards are met in full by the tax payers and their pay and working conditions seems to defy reform, but when it comes to other people's pay they connive to minimise rises or to force reforms onto us which they seem immune to. What has happened to House of Commons and HoL reform? Nothing that's what. MP's numbers were supposed to be cut in the 2020 election but May has effectively delayed that by holding the early election before the Boundary commission had put its ideas out for consultation, whilst there have been stories in the papers that the cuts won't be introduced as they will affect the number of Tory constituencies which the Tories and their lack of overall parliamentary majority can't accept. HoL numbers defy cuts as well with the Lords growing in number almost every year, defying both common sense and reform. I think that I'm also right in saying that the number of politicians in the UK has grown massively since 1997 with devolution and directly elected mayors and PCCs etc. At the same time teaching has been reformed and we have gone through Winsor 1 and 2, yet our pay masters are beyond reform and and have set up a nice little pay accumulator which means they benefit no matter what happens in the wider economy.
  21. Change of Career

    You'll need to call the HR department and ask them.
  22. My force is part of an alliance but we are reducing cooperation with the other forces as the PCCs all have conflicting aims which are difficult to resolve across borders. I know the government has traditionally opposed mergers but it seems that their policy of imposing PCCs is also a barrier to some of the other levels of cooperation that they would like to see.
  23. The government definitely does a good job of giving the impression that they are deaf to our concerns about pay and a myriad number of other things such as the overall level of police funding, AFO numbers, assaults on officers etc. On pay we should be getting our annual rise now in September but they acknowledged back in June that they hadn't even looked at the PRB submission let alone decided on what we will get meaning that it will be at least December before we get it. Remember this comes for a government which back in May said that they would seriously consider pay awards of more than 1% but they then decided not to look at the recommendations for another 3 months. I worked out that had my pay kept pace with inflation I would have been over £4000 better off than now in gross terms,, whilst I have also lost take home pay due to NI and pension contribution increases. The 'protected' budget for my force is increasing at 0.3% pa when inflation is almost 3% so we are still making cuts and closing police stations, but all the easy cuts were done a long time ago. We've lost 10% of our work force since 2010 whilst the population has gone up by 10% during the same period. We're going through our third reorganisation in another vain attempt to match resources to demand but demand continually outstrips resources. Recent HMIC reports have said that we have been performing well but we've just had another inspection but I don't think we'll come out well from. On example that I've heard is that they made three attempts to report a crime and failed every time due to long call queues or no one manning a front desk. Demand isn't going down and partnership working doesn't seem to do a lot for the police particularly when other public sector bodies are facing budget cuts. In the face of that a decent budget increase and not the paltry 'protected' budget is required. I'd love to see some concrete proposals from the government but I'm not holding my breath.
  24. Change of Career

    I think candidates have to reapply for the next pool if they fail twice.