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  1. I always made a point of visiting A&E Departments when on patrol and as a sgt & inspector I frequently instructed my PCs to do likewise. Quite often, if trouble occurred there were already police officers in the A&E Departments already dealing with RTCs, assaults etc. that had occurred outwith the hospital and they would always intervene if necessary to deal with any disturbances occurring within A&E. Eventually, my old force paid officers overtime to police A&E Departments on Friday and Saturday nights but in the present financial situation I understand this no longer happens. I always thought it was a disgrace that people (usually patients) would act in an abusive manner towards medical staff but when alcohol enters the equation (and it usually does on these occasions) then all logical thought evaporates.
  2. Sadly, I hear of instances of this nature with an increasing frequency but, assuming the incident is being accurately reported by the poster, I would say this is the worst such incident I have encountered. I think the assertion that a lack of funding (and possibly decreased manpower) is at the root of the problem is likely to have some truth in it and am glad that police forces (or some at least) are now having the courage and honesty to be transparent about the difficulties they face as a result of a decrease in their budgets and establishments. I think the poster should purse the matter and if I were in his shoes I would consider engaging the services of a solicitor to do so.
  3. Payments of this nature have been made for many years and if Police Scotland are now reneging on making them it would appear that they have been paying out erroneously for some time. This is yet another example of the powers that be trying to save money by disregarding the relevant Regulations. If they no longer wish to follow the Regulations concerned they should take the necessary steps to have them altered but they know that the forearms officers concerned will continue to put themselves forward for this type of duty even if they lose the court action described as giving up the coveted firearms ticket will not be considered an option by those who hold one. A return to ordinary duties would be anathema for most of them.
  4. Things continue to get worse. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I hear these stories. Still, one of my ancestors told the that my old force used to hire horses from a local undertaker many decades ago when they required a mounted detachment for events but they eventually decided to purchase horses for the mounted branch. Perhaps things will go the full circle and police forces will one day by their own cars.
  5. Surely the organisers of this event must have some for of appropriate insurance. If so, I imagine the premium must be really high.
  6. Has all the ingredients of a disaster waiting to happen.
  7. Totally agree with regard to references. Few people provide the name of someone as a referee without having first consulted them and ascertained that they will provide comments of a favourable nature. I have only heard of one instance of a referee failing to support the candidate. In my old force we always did unannounced home visits on candidates but I am informed this is no longer the case. There is little doubt in my mind that this aspect of enquiring into the background of candidates had deteriorated.
  8. An attack of this type was almost inevitable and, sadly, I suspect we shall see more. The lone wolf type of terrorist is probably the most difficult to deter. I am sure all our thoughts are with those who perished or were affected in any way by this incident and particularly the family of the deceased officer.
  9. We certainly lose our police powers and professional responsibilities when we retire and that that provides us with more of a choice about what to do if we witness a crime taking place. Again, it all depends on the circumstances. I was not long retired when I witnessed a couple of youths selling drugs to teenagers in a car park and, in all the prevailing circumstances, i chose to do nothing other than pass on information to the local police. However, I did intervene on an occasion when I witnessed a man knocking the living daylights out of a young woman and consider I took the correct action. Would you go to the assistance of a police officer who was being assaulted or pass by in the other side?
  10. Good point and I should say that when I was recounting the tale of the officer who was disciplined for not intervening in the pub fight, which I mentioned in my previous post, to a former colleague he reminded me that the officer concerned was also `done' for drinking in uniform, despite being off duty. The officer concerned was minus his police headgear and tunic and although he had a `civvy' jacket over his police shirt it was still visible and was wearing uniform trousers and police boots and was still recognisable as a police officer wearing part uniform to the extent that senior officers considered him to be `in uniform.' I suspect that had he intervened in the fight or 'phoned for assistance this aspect of the matter might have been overlooked but in all the circumstances he was also proceeded against for the drinking in uniform offence. I wonder how many officers have turned a blind eye to incidents due to them having consumed alcohol.
  11. I made many off-duty arrests during my service and considered it my duty to do so. It is difficult to ignore a thief coming out of a shop window display with a television under his arm or someone stabbing a passer-by. However, it is always wise to weigh up the circumstances in each case and in the example described it would probably be foolhardy to intervene immediately. I suspect it would be best to summon assistance of on-duty officers or go down the `intelligence' route. The wrong approach would be to say, ``I'm off duty,'' and do nothing. At least passing on intelligence is a form of intervention. I recollect an incident many years ago where a fight took place in a public house between 2 males who were quickly ejected from the premises by staff but continued their confrontation outside. On duty officers arrived and arrested them but while all this had been happening an on-duty officer was standing at the public bar quaffing a pint of the foaming ale while watching the combat. Someone reported this and, to cut a long story short, the officer concerned was dealt with under the Discipline Regs. for neglect of duty. His defence that he was off duty fell on deaf ears and he was told that, despite being off duty, he still had a duty as a sworn officer to take action. I take that would still be the case today.
  12. There could be some truth in that. In fact there has been some criticism of Police Scotland with regard to this issue but nothing much seems to change. I suspect it suits the political aims of certain factions to make it appear that crime is lower than it really is although a recent public survey in Scotland revealed that the vast majority of people do not believe the statistics.
  13. It may be hearsay but if it is then why are those serving officers (who are the root of the hearsay) telling lies?
  14. You allege this cannot happen any more but I know many officers who not only tell me that they deliberately fail to record crimes but are encouraged in this practice by their supervisors who, I understand, are under pressure from senior management to make it appear that there is less reported crime. If what you say is correct, a lot of my friends are telling lies.
  15. I believe it was a great mistake and injustice to put this Marine of trial in the first place and hope the fight may be continued in some way to eventually have his conviction overturned altogether. I hope that he and his family manage to recover from the injustice which I feel has been perpetrated against them and manage to live a normal life.