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  4. It really all depends, if an officer has been drinking alcohol then it's highly unlikely they will step in.

    Equally, even if they haven't been drinking it's probably best to just call for on-duty units and be a "professional witness" as they won't have any radio or protective equipment and if the person tries to fight they could be at a handi-cap. 

    General rule of thumb is, unless you absolutely have to don't bother getting involved as you could cause more trouble.

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  5. Personally, I don't see how nearly all countries arm their police on a daily basis and we don't... There are countries with gun laws similar to ours who still arm their officers every single day.

    This thing about "Great British Policing" needs to stop, pride and appearance shouldn't be a reason for not arming the police, it should be based on a factual risk assessment of the current climate, which I believe makes arming all officers a more realistic idea. 

    I think, train all officers to "AFO" level or similar and keep our SFO and CTSFO for the more complex jobs.

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  6. 6 hours ago, Zulu 22 said:

    You will learn more and gather more information walking the beat than at any other time. Sadly it is an art which is a dying art.

    Absolutely agree, I know locals who will only give me information as I'm the only officer they can say they "know". 


  7. On 27/05/2017 at 09:35, Sectioned Detection said:

    Rice v Connolly (1966) so it's not new.

     

    Having just read the transcript it doesn't appear totally apparent to the question in play, Rice had not been identified as having committed an offence. The question being asked on this thread relates to someone whom you have identified as committing an offence, whom you are trying to process who then decides not to give pars, thus making it impossible for you to process them. This is clearly obstructing police and I don't see how it couldn't be?


  8. 1 hour ago, Sectioned Detection said:

    So, you ID an offence, caution the person then after saying "you do not have to say anything" you prosecute them for not saying anything?

    Besides the fact caselaw says it's not. Worrying you didn't know that though if you're a cop. 

    Can you provide this case law? A custody sergeant will add a charge of obstruction of you refuse pars during booking in so why would I not be able to execute that same power? 

    Happy to be proven wrong, the great thing about this forum is that we can discuss opinions and ideas without too many problems. 

     


  9. I can not effectively process the person without their name and address, which means I am being obstructed from carrying out my duties. I'm going along the lines of "Willful obstruction" which is any act which makes it more difficult for me to effectively carry out my role.

    I could simply process the person for the offence in 5 minutes but by refusing to give me your name you are giving me no option but to arrest you as it is my only other means of disposal, making my job as a police officer more difficult.

     

    @Sectioned Detection


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  13. Generally providing you're over 18 the information the police give to the person who reported you missing is down to your discretion. You can choose to have no information fed back at all as you are legally an adult and providing you are safe and well you're not actually "missing" in the true sense of the word. 


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  15. 2 hours ago, cheapshots said:

    I called 101 and a Police officer kindly came to see me on Sunday. He did not want to record it was a crime, instead he recorded it as a non-crime domestic. 

    Latest allegation is my father and I tried to run my-ex over outside the family home when we dropped off my son to him. He took pictures of his foot (with shoes on!) and has included the crime reference and picture in his non-molestation order to keep me out my own house. -_-

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    At this point I see no breach of forum rules or foul play at hand so this thread will not be closed. 

     

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  20. 20 hours ago, Zulu 22 said:

    I appreciate those comments. Not all Specials are like that,  I have known and tutored many who had the right attitude. They valued experienced assistance, we're attentive and not arrogant. It seems that arrogance and a know all attitude prevail in such numbers. When we stopped recruiting we advised applicants to join the Met, do the 2 years and transfer. I was surprised how many transfered back and had very little good to say about the Met.They were also surprised how much we did. 

    Listen and learn but also follow your instincts, and good luck.

    Pros and Cons of being Met to be honest, for the most part I enjoy it but I do know things are done much better elsewhere. 

    For me it's a case of, I don't have a degree or enough money to do a CKP so I joined the SC to get into the regular force. 

    One step at a time...