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  1. Indeed, however high the amount goes it will never compensate. But if I were him it would have made me happy to know that my family was going to be able to pay for my funeral and have some financial security for years to come. HMS
  2. That's the point isn't it? The source is to blame not the recipient(Ms Dick).
  3. If I tell you a person is a threat to everyone and I am thought to be a credible source, and you respond to that threat...... Am I to blame or you?
  4. The decision would have been a good one if the information that she had been provided was true. She did not have command during that part of the surveillance phase and did what she had to do to protect the wider public. Yes it was terrible DeMenezes died, but when you pull that whole thing apart Cressida Dick was not to blame. She had the gumption to make a tough call and telling them to stop the target by any means necessary was what needed to be done in light of what they thought was unfolding. It was a horrific mistake but the mistake made was not hers.
  5. There are criticisms that can be aimed at her but that would be an unfair one- She had no part of the errors that led up to his misidentification...
  6. But if you go back you will only have half the work to do as they work in twos? Go fill your boots!
  7. It's always extremes isn't it... A Detective Constable is still a Constable. So he or she isn't promoted. However there is a lot more to being a Detective than a 6week course.... So to say they are only a PC is also untrue. They hold experience and formal qualifications that are at least as hard as promotion to PS is to obtain. Many road crash investigators achieve that accreditation too for good reason. But we so often default to type- if it's an achievement or qualification that I don't have then it isn't much anyway. If it's a department I don't work on then they are lazy overpaid and of limited use. "Everyone knows intervention is the hardest" "Everyone knows CID have to fix the crap work intervention do" "Everyone knows squads are places for job dodgers and people who never go out" "Work in pairs because they do half one job apiece" Been there done it and I can say it's all bullshit - everybody is stressed and tired and overworked and there are very few cushy spots anywhere anymore.
  8. Mark, Pairs= 50% of the work????.... I am a uniformed officer as you know... I also have the privilege of being an Inspector but I have not forgotten what being a PC or a DC or a DS is like... In my force DC's are breaking under the pressure. Stress risk assessments and mental health problems among Detectives becoming the norm. I have PCs who abandoned or were removed from the TI process on my relief and they are much happier now. You can laugh at these people, as can your C.Supt but you and likely he have no idea what they are going through-You don't understand what they actually do. I am not too proud to say..being a DC was much more work than I have now, less responsibility perhaps but very tiring. I look at these people with admiration not scorn. We have it easy by comparison and they should be applauded and saluted for what they do. If their life is so easy, get on the TI process-Go enjoy that lazy gravy train with the rest of them...I double dare you. HMS
  9. Yes it was. Having worked intervention and CID for many years in multiple roles I know where the stress and pressure is highest. I will no doubt at some point go back to a DI spot again but I'll do it with a wince as part of my career development plan. It wont be for pleasure. HMS
  10. I think multiple exposures over the years have led me and likely others here to learn to cope. Eventually it doesn't feel like coping, it's just doing the job. If my neighbours child was to die I would be sad for them and express compassion which I would genuinely feel. If I was the one who dealt with that death as a scene that wouldn't change any. But as soon as I move on its gone. SUDI'S are always sad but I guess rather selfishly they aren't my child so I don't take that deep wound. If I have any advice it's be human, do the best that you can do to mitigate the terrible thing that has happened for those left behind and content yourself knowing you did all you could. Then move on.
  11. I would be more reassured if the selection process identified a long standing SC than someone with no Policing background- The SC would have more of an idea of what he didn't know which would prompt the leadership with consultation skills that both CP and OAH refer to. Can someone tell me what they are bringing to the party that I don't know? Perhaps it would be something that I could learn.
  12. The thing is, it's a risky move. I don't believe the situation is so bad that it justifies such a risk. Yes there is always room for improvement but why not get these fresh new perspective people employed on our change teams? Why not have them embedded in shifts and then feed back their ideas which can be debated round a table by whoever is deemed fit to decide on change? Then policy can be written and current management appropriately trained. That way we get a transition, we get our innovation and outside skills but we also keep the best of what we already have. When our embedded advisor comes up with a great idea it will be adopted. When they come up with something that's going to Impede someone will have an opportunity to explain why before it goes live. This whole lets give it a whirl and see if anything breaks just seems reckless to me.
  13. Yes... but as any finding can't be retrospective and as the process is likely to take at least three years there will be very few if any people left on tapering and of any that are the impact will be minimal as their time will almost be up..... It's basically warning the horse to be careful of the gate that will shut behind it.....
  14. Which is why the claim that fighting for our pensions might do more harm than good is either ill conceived or disingenuous....