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  1. How can officers in the Met get better leadership than they had (sic) in the future? However they do deserve better leadership, which is why Cressida Dick is a good choice.
  2. To be fair I think it was two NARPO meetings.
  3. I wasn't aware that they were refusing to accept any criticism. But I would expect them to be able to say with absolute authority, whether they are being encouraged to 'cuff' crimes by supervisors since they are clearly the practitioners. Whereas I wouldn't expect people who have been retired for a number of years, to have any inkling whether that happens other than by hearsay. I'm not sure that NARPO is probably the most reliable source of existing force practices! Seeing a different picture from outside the box is one thing. Having first hand experience of a practice because you do it every day, is quite another. I don't know how long you served for, 20 or so perhaps, but you must have served for long enough to know that things in the Police change very quickly. And it may well be that they have changed to the extent that you are wrong in your assumptions.
  4. They probably aren't telling lies. An assumption by me, but I think you have been retired a while? You meet serving officers and the conversation tends to go along the lines of you saying 'is the job still doing a, b , or c', and either they just agree with you so as to let you think that it was better in your day, or they might counter it with 'no, things have tightened up a bit in that area' to which you read as being 'it still happens but not quite as much'. Its nothng unusual, it's how human behaviour works. Also, as RM says, things might be different in Scotland. In the force where I was, every call result was scrutinised to see I felt a crime should have been put on. Quite often we'd get a call/email or whatever, some days after to say that one should have gone on and so we had to do so. As a supervisor I never felt pressured to encourage 'cuffing' of crimes (weird expression) and in fact it was quite the opposite.
  5. I have done thank you and I thoroughly enjoyed it. However as I recall we dealt with most of our stuff and rarely handed anything over. Nowadays they don't keep anything except maybe drink drives (and often then get passed over on the basis that they are too drunk to be dealt with). No doubt in my mind which is is easier and which is harder. But only at the moment.
  6. I agree, however what they are going to do to solve it is anyone's guess. Ironically, part of the problem is that now response policing is no longer bottom of the heap and everything is handed over, people are thinking 'why should I put myself out when I can just stay on response for a (relatively) easy life'. A difficult nut to crack.
  7. I see that the marine has had his conviction changed from murder to manslaughter, on appeal.
  8. It's interesting that people who have been retired for some time are all quite sure that it still goes on (hearsay) and yet the people who are serving and actually going to the calls and putting on the reports are all quite sure that it doesn't happen. I wonder who to believe??
  9. Hi Very straightforward. As it stands now with 23 years in the 87 scheme, if you left tomorrow then your pension would be deferred until 60. If you stayed on for two more years to get 25 years pensionable service then you can take it at 50. You are tapered until 2019 so neither option would involve the CARE 2015 scheme so you are solely in the 87 scheme. Far be it from me to give advice, but if you can stomach the job for two more years then that gives you 10 extra years pension, potentially at least an extra £190k. (10 years of a PC's 25 year pension is about £19k per year). So you would be throwing away £19k per year from the age of 50 if you left now.
  10. Yes there is, it's two years.
  11. There were two male and two female candidates. I call that pretty much a 50/50 chance of a female getting the job.
  12. She is definitely the preferred choice. Good at her job, good decision maker (yes she made an incorrect one - somehow I don't think she's the only person in the Police ever to do that) doesn't hate detectives like the last one, apparently a good people person and also was a well respected officer whilst in the lower ranks. Even though she was on the accelerated promotion scheme! For the first time since John Stevens, I think the right choice has been made.
  13. The way the CARE sceme works, part time has no effect on length of service for the purposes of the Pension. Every year you build up an individual 'pot' (imaginary but it's easier to think of it that way) as a proportion of your earnings. So whatever you earn, your 'pot' is 1.8% of that, which then gets enhanced by CPI plus 1.25% every year. Same with next year's etc etc. So if you earn less (by virtue of being part time) then you just have a smaller 'pot'. Doesn't have any bearing on when you can leave, other than your own economic circumstances. And obviously the before or after 55 bit which you know about. The only time length of service comes into play is with the 87 pension as you have pointed out. You need 25 years which means you can take it at 50 and 17 years gives you 17/50ths etc etc. But you know all that.
  14. I presume that's directed at Archermav? As a career tec, you're preaching to the converted with me.